Means to an end to me means instilling communism or socialism but to these libs I imagine it just means getting rid of conservatives which voting does not do. At least it hasn't historically in america.
Means to an end to me means instilling communism or socialism
There are plenty of intermediate goals -- that would in some way move towards this -- that can be accomplished through elections. For example, any socialist or communist project would handle crime in a way that isn't horrifically racist and unjust. Legalizing pot would move us substantially closer to that end goal, as would electing local DAs who aren't just trying to railroad as many poor people and people of color as they can.
More broadly, the best way to convince people that a better world is possible is to start making the world better, the best way to get people to join your organization is to show that your organization can accomplish something real, and if you can do nothing else even just talking about better ideas in political spaces forces those ideas to be taken seriously.
I disagree. I live in a state that legalized marijuana, massively increased our healthcare coverage (now it covers like 30% of the state for free) and raised the wages of our teachers greatly all within the year yet we are probably top five for most vehemently anti-communist.
Not to sound accellerationist but my awakening came in spite of my conditions which have been pretty piss poor my entire life. If you give libs an inch they fall asleep for four years and let fash run rampant. Something needs to happen outside of the voting booth to change this.
How are they not? Ballot initiatives in particular directly impact whatever issue you're working on.
Means to an end to me means instilling communism or socialism but to these libs I imagine it just means getting rid of conservatives which voting does not do. At least it hasn't historically in america.
There are plenty of intermediate goals -- that would in some way move towards this -- that can be accomplished through elections. For example, any socialist or communist project would handle crime in a way that isn't horrifically racist and unjust. Legalizing pot would move us substantially closer to that end goal, as would electing local DAs who aren't just trying to railroad as many poor people and people of color as they can.
More broadly, the best way to convince people that a better world is possible is to start making the world better, the best way to get people to join your organization is to show that your organization can accomplish something real, and if you can do nothing else even just talking about better ideas in political spaces forces those ideas to be taken seriously.
I disagree. I live in a state that legalized marijuana, massively increased our healthcare coverage (now it covers like 30% of the state for free) and raised the wages of our teachers greatly all within the year yet we are probably top five for most vehemently anti-communist.
Not to sound accellerationist but my awakening came in spite of my conditions which have been pretty piss poor my entire life. If you give libs an inch they fall asleep for four years and let fash run rampant. Something needs to happen outside of the voting booth to change this.