• glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Wasn’t the shot heard around the world the one that killed Franz Ferdinand?

        • p_sharikov [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah, apparently it's from an 1837 Emerson poem about the battle.

          • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            oh im not disagreeing with the historical usage, im just saying its fucking idiotic american exceptionalist nonsense

            • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Yeh, I mean in context in 1776 was a revolt in one of Britain’s colonies really on the same level as “oh shit this dude got assassinated and now all the imperial world powers declared war on each other”

              • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                no, because all the world powers didnt declare war on each other over it.

                obviously it was an important part of history, but im pretty sure it wasnt "heard around the world" unless the entire world consists of the colony, the british, and the french.

                which uh... seems a bit less impactful than might have been otherwise thought

                • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  That’s what I’m saying lol. I’m saying the two aren’t comparable at all, at least not in their own context. Obviously the American rev had huge consequences in world history, but the immediate event wasn’t really “a shot heard around the world” in the same way as Princeps

                  • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                    4 years ago

                    hah, kinda misread you as saying it was, due to the fallout of british empire collapse and surge of constitutional reforms internationally that modeled themselves in part after the u.s

                    :heart-sickle: