Keir Starmer doesn't want Labour MP's explicitly voting against bill that would attempt to protect the UK and soldiers from being held responsible for doing awful shit.

Labour has sacked three junior shadow ministers who joined with Jeremy Corbyn and 14 other Socialist Campaign group MPs in breaking the party’s whip by voting against the second reading of a controversial armed forces bill.

Sources close to the party’s leadership said that the three MPs were warned in advance that they could not remain in their posts as parliamentary private secretaries if they voted against the bill.

Nadia Whittome, Beth Winter and Olivia Blake defied the whip, which called on Labour MPs to abstain on the overseas operations bill. The legislation aims to introduce a presumption against prosecution for British soldiers serving abroad.

The group of rebels led by former party leader Corbyn also included John McDonnell, Diane Abbott and Rebecca Long-Bailey.

The proposed presumption against prosecution applies to offences such as war crimes and torture and critics say it breaches international humanitarian law, although the government says it is designed to end vexatious litigation against the armed forces.

“I thought the bill was a matter of conscience,” Whittome told ITV’s Robert Peston But she added that it was “reasonable” for colleagues to decide to abstain and try to amend the legislation during the later stages of its passage through parliament.

She said the bill was “anti-veteran, anti-human rights, and would effectively decriminalise torture – and that’s why I voted against it”.

Earlier, Corbyn had said: “I have grave concerns that, as it stands, the overseas operation bill the House of Commons is discussing today defies and undermines international law.”

The move against the three MPs is an indication of the firm discipline Keir Starmer intends to exert over his party — and underlines the continued tensions between leftwingers and the new leadership.

Party sources indicated they were not unhappy that Corbyn had broke with his successor Starmer over the bill, arguing that it created a dividing line between the past and present leaders.

  • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    For a little extra context:

    • Nadia Whittome is a rising star of the left which is the main reason he fired her.

    • She found out she was fired on live TV. Kier didn't have the balls to fire her personally so they leaked it to insane right-wing blog Guido Fawkes.

    • At the start of the coronavirus epidemic she went back to her old job as a carer in a care home, despite the danger, because she gave a shit. She later revealed that the company that ran it wasn't providing staff with PPE. They fired her. Kier Starmer tweeted and said on the radio I support of her "No one should be sacked (fired) for speaking out".

    I've got a red wall I'd like to introduce Sir Keir to.

  • vertexarray [any]
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    4 years ago

    bloody 'eck I love it when the boys overseas do some war crimes I do

  • MorallyPanicked [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah it's all the usual suspects voted against it. Corbyn, Abbot, etc. The ones who we can trust. Plus some of the rising stars of the 2019 intake of Labour MPs.

  • regul [any]
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    4 years ago

    It's cool how Starmer sees his non-opposition to prosecuting war criminals as a positive differentiator for him.

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Is there any way for Labour Members to strike back against Sir Keir?

    • GlacialTurtle [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Vote in NEC elections https://labourlist.org/2020/07/over-170-members-are-standing-in-labours-nec-elections-who-are-they/

    • NotAShrimp [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Vote green. He has set up bait for every single left Labour candidate and purged them unequivocally.

  • NotAShrimp [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    FUCK STARMER.

    I actually contemplated voting for him. Fuck this hollowed out, dead eyed, nasal disabled ape. He has found a way to purge every left member from the party. This was absolutely planned. Why the fuck would you abstain from a blank cheque torture bill and fire anyone who votes against it? Even if you agree its etiquette to vote against it as the opposition (unless you know who's voting against it and warn your mates who would otherwise. He's clever but he's a through and through prol traitor. Green all the way baby.