cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5089915
Jesus, the comments here are abysmal from what I can tell.
I'm no doomer, but we need to do something about this, even on the grassroots level.
who'd have thought that the worse case scenario models were the correct ones???
The scientists who were repeatedly told that their actual projections were making them look hysterical?
"Listen eggheads, go back to the lab and crunch those numbers again until you give me good news. It's an election year."
It really feels like a flip switched a few years ago. Weather feels completely different everywhere. And I grew up in a cold state and I could look forward to having a nice cold holiday when visiting family but it doesn't really even drop below 50 (10 C) anymore.
Warming oceans affecting currents and the reflective ice sheets disappearing leading to probable runaway temperatures after we hit a certain threshold have been being discussed for decades. In a couple years you're going to hear a lot of politicians and oil funded think-tanks saying "no one knew this could happen!!"
Maybe countries with nuclear capabilities will start threatening to nuke eachother if they don't follow climate agreements.
"This snow is beautiful! I'm glad global warming never happened."
"Actually, it did. But thank god nuclear winter cancelled it out."
tbh even a global nuclear hellstorm might be better than the future we're building right now
Flip a switch to twenty years ago and it's radically different.
I went through a box of old family photos taken by my grandparents in the 60s and 70s. One of the most jarring things about them is how many outdoor pics have snow on the ground. I just assumed most of them were taken around December/Christmas, but then I see months like October or even April hand written on them.
I live in the same town those pictures were taken in and it hardly ever snows here anymore, save for a couple days January. It snowed literally once this past winter, and it wasn't even enough to justify bringing my snow blower out to clear the walks because it melted within hours.
Yeah, I'm the Northern areas of the globe and weather has become so unpredictable. Flooding like we have never seen before, stronger storms, droughts. Heat and also more extreme cold when it gets cold. I heard thunder in Febryary this year at night, this is not something that has ever happened before on this latitude, it doesn't thunder in winter and yet it did this year.
The people better off have already bough their way out of the heat part by buying heat pumps. I have noticed how the middle class climate discourse has died down a lot after they got this solution. Meanwhile those of us in social or average rental housing are feeling it, in this country nothing is built for cooling. In the last few years I have become sort of scared of summer because getting older, post-covid and this weather don't mix. I am increasingly worried I can't deal with my work or sleep in the weather we can't escape from anymore. And still newspapers are running the happy beach picture heatwave stories.
Yup. Growing up a white Christmas was a given to the extent that the song "dreaming of a white Christmas" made 0 sense to my child brain since of course there would be snow on Christmas! It wasn't unusual to have snow on or before Halloween and it would stay frozen till at least March, sometimes even later! I remember joking that it was really May showers that bring June flowers since it was still snowy in April!
The last few years it's been well into December before the first snow, and it's been a disgusting slushy mess that constantly melts and refreezes making everything a sheet of ice. Walking is dangerous, driving doubly so. We've had rain in January for Christ sake!
Not to mention the apocalyptic wildfires that blanket the entire region with pea soup smoke for days and weeks at a time making even going outside a struggle, let alone working in it
The last 3 British Summers have been all over the place. We had the hottest on record last year. It's been nothing but rain and wind this time, other than a sunny week at the start.
Well okay, that looks bad but what you alarmist doomers need to remember is that you need a five year average of 1.5 warming for it to actually count as being 1.5 over the pre industrial average
I mean it is good to look at these things and not go completely doomer. Still not a good sign
If your crop fails at 1.5 degrees of warming it doesn't matter if it's one or five years lol
How do you even find yourself on a site called space dot com denying climate change?
Frankly, they were probably looking for a science news outlet to do this, tbh...
Their adult children stopped answering their phone calls so they need someplace to vent.
Even when Earth cooks itself, space will remain a constant unchanged temperature of close to absolute zero.
Checkmate, atheist.
Please Xi press the Communism button to unlock the Beat Climate Change button
How long until we try some harebrained hail Mary geoengineering attempt like stratospheric aerosol injection or oceanic iron spreading to induce plankton blooms? Before or after the first seven figure mass casualty heat dome+grid failure?
Never, they'll be too busy spending the money on mining the entire southern border.
Probably before, there's already been a few cowboy-ass schemes in that direction.
(And also I don't think a 10k+ mass casualty heat dome event that likely, though only because earlier heat domes will have already killed off too many of the would-be victims.)
I think the prototyping of those and a mass implementation will begin in the early 2030s. Its likely that China will be the only country capable of creating/spearheading that effort, with India being the main country pulling the slack since theyre literally at the forefront of the crisis.
I think we all know that it will absolutely not work but it will give us time to perhaps avert really devastating effects
Basically, the latter. To me, it's someone that just throws their hands up in the air and says, "Fuck it! It's all useless!" Frankly, even I am guilty of this sometimes...
I was in Redding California the other day and the outside thermostat on the car showed 122F. The outside air was almost unbreathable.
yeah it was worse than when we went to Death Valley a few years back (national park) which is the hottest place in the US.
Yeah, the house we rent doesn't have AC either. If we had those kind of temps here we'd have to go to a hotel or something. There was a week of 90+ temps a few years ago and it was unbearable inside. Couldn't sleep at night, could hardly breathe during the day. I can't imagine 120+
