I hope everyone here understands these facts and is preparing accordingly within their communities.

  • TemporalMembrane [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    This a very long read but it outlines how Biden and Trump could both declare themselves the victor. It does rely on a lot of lib electoral shit, though..

    I'm skeptical of a civil war, as in like Syria, because I don't think anyone is willing to die on behalf of installing Biden. The Trump freaks are willing to fight and die for him, but Trump himself probably just wants a way out of the Presidency while claiming he never lost and it was all rigged. The Bourgeoisie (the real big ones, like the owners of large companies not the petit bourgeoisie) don't back one against the other because their both promising the same neoliberal regime and imperialist wars - Trump never stopped the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq even though he also resisted starting new ones in Venezuela or Iran. I'm also skeptical of a civil war because it would actually accelerate conditions and force libs to radicalize or die - and the general pattern of the last 30 years of neoliberalism has been: nothing good or heinous ever happens (edit: in the imperial core, I thought about this and obviously bad shit has happened in the periphery/global south), things just get slightly worse and more annoying.

    Now, something like the Troubles? Paramilitaries running around and bombing shit? That could happen. The Years of Lead? That's totally going to happen. But a 12 sided fractal civil war finally ending the imperial American empire in one bloody orgiastic event? We're dreaming if we think that can happen. No excuses not to prepare, though.

    • Zezima [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      The troubles is already happening. Northern Ireland in the 70's had roughly 300 deaths per year from terrorism, getting those numbers will be so easy.

      • Zezima [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        I'm 90% confident that the most likely outcome will simply be a low-level insurgency dotting around the country, primarily lone wolves who manipulate the 1st amendment to become radicalised.