• jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    My post history pretty clearly shows I'm a China Good, Death to America poster. Despite that, I think we need to recognize that the cultural liberalism of the west has been an enormous boon to the queer community. This is simply an area where China Bad and it's due to a variety of very old cultural factors. The rest of the world is just more conservative on gender on sexuality. Ironically, of course, these sexually conservative attitudes were largely imported by the west during colonialism. But that's where things are at now and we need to recognize the reality.

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      Just to add to this, a lot of people associate with the left is deeply contextual with the underlying historical conditions of a particular group of people and a given country.

      In a lot of eastern european formerly communist countries, there are multiple left wing democratic socialist or social democratic parties that differ greatly on issues of social liberalism (both on issues like LGBT rights, but also on issues such as national identity, immigration, law and order, ect). Hell, the history of pro immigration sentiment within the western left stems from the fact that in a lot of countries the majority of people there aren't indigenous.

      Social liberalism is still fundamentally rooted in enlightenement ideals that liberal democracy and modern capitalism arose from, that doesn't make it bad, but it deeply relates to social changes rooted in individualism rather than broader collective class action that defines the left in other parts of the world.