• Parysian [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    The captions make me think these are supposed to be damning, but if you told me these were published by the NK gov to make their country look good I'd believe you. The rural areas look borderline idyllic, the restaurants look normal, the young people are all hot, the streets are clean. Seems like a normal ass country the way it's depicted here.

    • HarryLime [any]
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      4 years ago

      There's more people in military uniforms than I'd feel comfortable seeing on the street, not quite as much food in the market shot as I'd like, and the roads could use some repair, but it seems okay apart from that. And those last two things are understandable given their lack of resources and how cut off from the world they are. We have an absurd amount of money and resources in America, and they're literally unpaving the roads in rural areas.

      One caption said something about a "bleak concrete apartment tower," and...okay? So what if they have some ugly concrete buildings? I drive by ugly buildings every day.

        • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          dousing my home with kerosene to cover up the smell of my wifes baking darn communists with their breads, ruining my sense of smell

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's not even ugly, it's just a cool brutalist building.

        • HarryLime [any]
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          4 years ago

          Like a thousand people here will yell at me for saying this, but I happen to think brutalism is pretty ugly a lot of the time. Or at least kind of bleak.

          • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            its an aesthetic, you dont have to personally like it.

            personally i like the "organic" new brutalism stuff that frank lloyd wright was onto.

            • HarryLime [any]
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              4 years ago

              personally i like the “organic” new brutalism stuff that frank lloyd wright was onto.

              Interesting, can you link some pictures?

              • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                image off the frank lloyd wright website.

                the bottom left is a really gorgeous example of the idea, was his personal home

                • EldritchMayo [he/him,comrade/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  I love FLW, but I would describe his style as more of praire style with some sharp lines and natural incorporation. His houses tended to be be pretty short and long and it's the long lines and kind of war colours that give it a good aesthetic, which is pretty different to brutalism

                  • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                    4 years ago

                    brutalism traditionally just means its a structure with exposed concrete. the term "brutalism" as used in architectural discourse today is literally in reference to what is more properly called "new brutalism" a chief proponant of which was FLW with his "organic" movement.

                    saying its not brutalism because it incorporates colourful elements is nonsense.

                    tldr: brutalism has multiple styles, and is defined by its use of exposed concrete.

                    • EldritchMayo [he/him,comrade/them]
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                      4 years ago

                      Fair enough. I’m not really an expert on brutalist, just a fan of FLW. I do think though that unfortunately his style doesn’t hold up as well for large buildings, most of his are single units and I tend to associate brutalism with larger multi unit buildings. I’d have to see some more brutalist buildings to develop a proper opinion. Some of the flat soviet ones are kinda boring and plain, but I like habitat 67 in Montreal. Pretty sure that became a bougie place to live though.

                      • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                        4 years ago

                        yeah, the style is tricky to scale upwards i could agree with that, but i wouldnt say its impossible to implement. just takes careful consideration, which is sadly lacking when the concern is profit rather than living standard.

                        either way, its still a good entry point for people who think brutalism by its inherent nature is ugly, since.. yknow.. obvious refutation

      • WetAssPossum [they/them,ey/em]
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        4 years ago

        “bleak concrete apartment tower,”

        Glad we don't have those in America

        Wait, I live in one of those, except it's stick frame instead of concrete, so it's a massive fire trap.

      • Amorphous [any]
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        4 years ago

        not quite as much food in the market shot as I’d like

        in the US we have so much food that our homeless people starve to death while hiding from the cops behind a locked dumpster full of fresh food

        the barbaric north koreans have such empty stores because they dare to give the food to the people instead of hoarding it all for show. absolutely monstrous, how dare they

        • HarryLime [any]
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          4 years ago

          I'm not blaming North Korea for the relative lack of food- they're under punishing sanctions and isolation and they have limited arable land. And yeah, the fact that hunger in America is even a problem given the tremendous abundance of food and resources we have is monstrous.

          • Amorphous [any]
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            4 years ago

            oh yeah, sorry if it sounded like i was directing that at you. kinda just ranting about it