Like, CIA troops are fighting Pentagon troops in Syria. Suppression of the political opposition and creeping hard power is being carried out by local police departments and unions. The historectomies in ICE camps were being carried out by a rogue contractor. It doesn't even feel like a movement so much as the aggregate effort of thousands of disparate forces.

  • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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    4 年前

    It's honestly one of the funniest occurrences in Trump's accidental anti-imperialism https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/24/trump-open-technology-fund-hong-kong-belarus-iran

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      4 年前

      this is amazing. the dumbass nationalist faction is eating the lunch of the international capital faction, Matt has talked about this split in the GOP on the vlogs

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        4 年前

        The contradictions of the American Bourgeoisie are wild rn. I think it's more complex than small holders vs big capital but that is part of it. You have heavy industry like oil & gas, mining, construction that often is very big money, in Coalition with the petit bourgeois small property holders against a liberal coalition of tech, finance, and urban PMC interests. It's gotten to the point that they basically can't peacefully coexist. One of them has to dominate the other.

        • emizeko [they/them]
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          4 年前

          yeah I edited it to nationalist because I think that captures the mindset better but your coalition comment is more material and explanatory

          • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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            4 年前

            Yeah I mean it's definitely a part of it though. The petit bourgeois is always extremely reactionary, and they're definitely a major part of their axis of evil lol. I remember Matt doing an episode of History as a Weapon with the Antifada or maybe it was inebriated past I don't remember, but it was about how the Democratic and Republican party have become ideologically distinct and conflicting and the only real resolution is a reordering of society. He was basically right though he didn't go too deep into the material analysis of it to explain why. I think we are really seen ng it come to a head.

            The question we have on the left Is what do we do if shit pops off? The most likely scenario would be different state security forces would clash and there would be a very different kind of civil war. Probably something not too unlike the Syrian Civil war. Personally if this happens I think we should enter into a United Front with the libs and take up arms against the chuds, while refusing to be controlled. If we could finesse that into getting arms and funding, we could be in a good place to turn a civil war into a revolution.

            Then again, none of this could happen and the military, cops and DHS could all side together and just impose full blown fascism lol.