• citrussy_capybara [ze/hir]
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      4 months ago

      I am one of those “woke communists” you worry about.

      I think anybody who uses that word as a pejorative is a f*cking disgrace to the human race.

      torvalds-nvidia
      https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm

      • someone [comrade/them, they/them]
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        4 months ago

        Just when I thought I couldn't love Linus any more than I do, he goes and says something totally fucking awesome and my love for him grows stronger. That man is a global treasure.

    • peeonyou [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      windows may cause global outages and whatnot, but at least it ain't so woke

  • roux [he/him, they/them]
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    4 months ago

    It's the only other language that Linux is allowing???? What the fuck is this guy cooking in his rv because I'm gonna buy some.

    I've written websites on Linux. I've written Java, JavaScript, PHP, Ruby, and Python on Linux. It fucking comes with Python and Ruby interpreters. Most environments are way easier to set up than Windows. I've been writing code on Linux for 10 fucking years what the fuck is this guy talking about?

    • plinky [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 months ago

      i suspect he means kernel language

      • Imnecomrade [none/use name]
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        4 months ago

        Linux from scratch essentially requires Python, Perl, etc. to build: https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter02/hostreqs.html

        The Linux kernel shows a little Python and Perl in the GitHub repository: https://github.com/torvalds/linux

        Picking one repo fork out of Linux's git tree (before everything is merged into linux-next), we can see other languages, such as C++, contribute to various components of Linux: https://github.com/util-linux/util-linux

        • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
          ·
          4 months ago

          The kernel repository includes a number of configuration and debugging tools in various scripting languages, but these aren't build inputs for the kernel itself.

          • Imnecomrade [none/use name]
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            4 months ago
            That's what I figured, thus I avoided saying it was part of the kernel itself. Nevertheless, they play a role in its development, build infrastructure, etc., which I believe is important as the collective work of various workers and their tools make the existence of the Linux kernel possible. Hence, the chud devs that complain about wOkE languages can go suck on a sock.

            I'm not implying an absence of issues with Rust and other languages; just pointing out the lunacy of egotistical, rightoid, wannabe devs.

  • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    former Senior Engineer

    Conflates C and C++

    "Rust is compromised by a cabal of woke redacted-1redacted-2"

    thank you for your wonderful opinion how-compelling-flipped

    • brainw0rms
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      8 days ago

      deleted by creator

  • RussianEngineer [she/her]
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    4 months ago

    rust takes AGES to compile literally anything. also the compiler on i686 requiring SSE2 instructions is a massive thorn in my side as a old computer user and is the primary driver of my hatred of rust lmao. it gets in my way quite a lot since rust has creeped its way into a lot of open source projects these days

    • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
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      4 months ago

      REAL

      Rust tends to break or not work entirely outside of modern PCs running Linux or Windows and this also annoys me a lot lol, this is the reason we don't have Firefox on 32-bit PowerPC machines either :(

      You can't even build Rust on machines with less than 4 GB of main memory at this point

      Also suffers from the C++ problem of being so overcomplicated that independent implementations are extremely difficult to write

      Deeply unportable language pretending to be a new operating system

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      4 months ago

      Rust is lovely to program in (IMO), but another problem is packaging. Rust basically statically links everything and it makes it an incredible pain for distributions to package individual rust libraries and applications properly. It is one of the most frequent complaints I see scrolling up the screen among contributors on #gentoo-chat.

      • RussianEngineer [she/her]
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        4 months ago

        another issue with the static linking is the larger binary sizes it causes, meaning more of my precious disk space is wasted!!! another big issue on extremely resource limited systems such as 90s equipment with hard drives measured in hundreds of megabytes. i have gentoo running on a OG pentium (coz its one of the few distros left that truely supports it, via their i486 branch) and i have a dedicated hard drive for all the package management files and other caches portage uses lmao

    • makotech222 [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      building lemmy locally on my pc takes like 5-10 minutes and produces >60gb of 'build files'. absolutely ridiculous lmao.

    • ashinadash [she/her]
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      4 months ago

      also the compiler on i686 requiring SSE2 instructions is a massive thorn in my side as a old computer user

      My comrade, tell me what old stinky i386 CPU you use!! meow-tankie

      • RussianEngineer [she/her]
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        4 months ago

        a 80386, multiple 80486's, a pentium-133, a pentium2, and two non-sse2 pentium4s. and they all have useful purposes for various things. things you cant do with an emulator

        old

        stinky

        now look here buddy shoulder-grab

        modern tech delenda est

        • ashinadash [she/her]
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          4 months ago

          I was nodding along like "Waow...." [Basedbasedbasedbased] until

          Pentium 4s

          desolate

          • RussianEngineer [she/her]
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            4 months ago

            yes, even the awful netbursts have their use. and no, that use is not "spaceheater" even if they do that as a secondary function

            • ashinadash [she/her]
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              4 months ago

              Anything they can do that an Athlon XP would not? Purely curious (also I have always wanted an Athlon XP or 64 system rip)

              • RussianEngineer [she/her]
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                4 months ago

                athlon XPs dont support DMA over their ISA bus. the p4 can with specific chipsets

                  • RussianEngineer [she/her]
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                    4 months ago

                    only if it has one of the chipsets which will allow full DMA over the isa slot, aka the intel 8xx series

                    the intel 865/875 is the best one as it supports a faster FSB over the older 845 and 815 chipsets

                    they're kinda rare tho and if it does have one, the 845 with the slower FSB is way more common then the others

    • plinky [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 months ago

      Okay, old computer users get a woke c++ pass

  • hypercracker
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    4 months ago

    We are this close to hearing a rant about how sum types facilitate the representation of GENDER IDEOLOGY in computer systems and I cannot wait for that moment

  • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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    4 months ago

    Because I write the one true trans programming language, Haskell (and some Agda).

  • POKEMONGOTOTHEGULAG [none/use name]
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    4 months ago

    Ok asshole so switch to C. Nuthin wrong with that.; except if you don't understand how restricted void pointer pointers work like a dumb woke lefty.

  • flan [they/them]
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    4 months ago

    I saw another post that was saying the .SYS file is full of zeroes so I don't think "just use rust" would fix that. Sounds like some kind of build toolchain and QA problem.

    I guess I just want to add that he also goes on about "just adding null checks". Yes you should check for null pointers but your program is probably going to break in a pretty unexpected way when all of the pointers are null.... and what's the deal with microsoft letting people auto update kernel drivers

    • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]
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      4 months ago

      we used to be able to throw void pointers all over the place but we can't anymore because of woke

  • brainw0rms
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    8 days ago

    deleted by creator

    • CupcakeOfSpice [she/her]
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      4 months ago

      I don't remember exactly how, but you can specify a compiler using arcane magic I don't fully understand to compile for a baremetal target. Some people do full OS dev in just Rust, though usually C and ASM are involved to bootstrap. It can be somewhat arcane, though.

      • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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        4 months ago

        There's a blog about writing a micro kernel in Rust that details how to compile for bare metal. It's actually possible to entirely avoid C, although a bit annoying to be sure.

    • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      The tooling for Rust is the best out of any language I have ever written. Idk what you are looking for, but as someone who does backend dev in Rust, I can't think of a language that even comes close to Rust's tooling.

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    4 months ago

    This guy is still riding on the coat tails of being the “google gender whistleblower” from like 6 years ago?

    Apparently it’s not the same guy.