Yeah, absolutely. The if you had to argument is one I often get hit with. It's dumb as fuck, but I'm so use to answering it off the bat right now.
Like, I had a kid who was failing to thrive. They couldn't breast feed, and refused all vegan options we offered in formula. They'd dropped weight significantly, and it was scary as heck. At that point, if gave that kid non vegan formula.
This is the closest I've ever come to an "if you had to" argument.
Not if insects don't decay quickly or if the microorganisms breaking them down aren't a problem for humans, plus you're not gonna get prion diseases from insects
Fair cop. I guess I was, in a smartass way, trying to say there's no need at all to eat the bugs.
If it's only disease were worried about, then there a whole bunch of mammals we wouldn't be eating. Cows, for instance, give us prion disease. Pigs are a massive vector for disease. The current pandemic was borne from people eating, trading and selling flesh.
Just don't eat what you don't need to I should have wrote.
The "need" bit is an interesting question if we're talking about world populations in particular — to my knowledge as it stands we can't sufficiently feed everyone on a 100% vegan diet (even if distribution and inequality problems were magicked away) but adding insect protein would be viable to ease the transition while reducing the emissions/disease/suffering/etc that comes from meat farming
Yeah, look. I'd love to see some solid research on this. It's something I hear quite often in defence of meat / against vegan diets, but I'm never shown the why or how of it.
I guess it then comes down to the age old 'minimize harm' element of veganism; i.e. I wouldn't watch the bugs because I get plenty of protein in my diet already. If for some reason other people didn't have access to beans, but did to bugs, then sure, I guess.
Ethically? Yes. I try my hardest not to hurt any animals when there is no need.
If I had to though, for sure I guess? I dunno. No more fucked than eating a cow, pig or human child.
"If you had to" is a survivalist argument omnis try to use to 'trap' vegans.
But we don't live in a survivalist situation, which is one of the points as to why we don't eat meat, because we don't need to.
Yeah, absolutely. The if you had to argument is one I often get hit with. It's dumb as fuck, but I'm so use to answering it off the bat right now.
Like, I had a kid who was failing to thrive. They couldn't breast feed, and refused all vegan options we offered in formula. They'd dropped weight significantly, and it was scary as heck. At that point, if gave that kid non vegan formula.
This is the closest I've ever come to an "if you had to" argument.
their lifespans are so short you could just keep 'em in a big fishtank and just collect the dead ones off the bottom
You could also eat human corpses for the same reason, but we don't.
Not if insects don't decay quickly or if the microorganisms breaking them down aren't a problem for humans, plus you're not gonna get prion diseases from insects
Fair cop. I guess I was, in a smartass way, trying to say there's no need at all to eat the bugs.
If it's only disease were worried about, then there a whole bunch of mammals we wouldn't be eating. Cows, for instance, give us prion disease. Pigs are a massive vector for disease. The current pandemic was borne from people eating, trading and selling flesh.
Just don't eat what you don't need to I should have wrote.
The "need" bit is an interesting question if we're talking about world populations in particular — to my knowledge as it stands we can't sufficiently feed everyone on a 100% vegan diet (even if distribution and inequality problems were magicked away) but adding insect protein would be viable to ease the transition while reducing the emissions/disease/suffering/etc that comes from meat farming
Yeah, look. I'd love to see some solid research on this. It's something I hear quite often in defence of meat / against vegan diets, but I'm never shown the why or how of it.
I guess it then comes down to the age old 'minimize harm' element of veganism; i.e. I wouldn't watch the bugs because I get plenty of protein in my diet already. If for some reason other people didn't have access to beans, but did to bugs, then sure, I guess.
There are usually other issues with eating animals that die of natural causes. I'd assume that includes insects.