Honey, no. Bugs? Certainly a better protein option than meat in terms of environmental impact. Like others have said, I would if necessary, and the ethics aren’t as clear cut as eating larger mammals and sea creatures, But more than anything else I can’t imagine a situation other than some lovecraftian nightmare world where eating bugs makes more sense than eating beans. Also faux meats have gotten so good it just seems pointless Rn. Who knows though? Could be a crucial agricultural crop in LGSC!
I’m loving the vegan unity in this thread, who ever said veganism isn’t a coherent ethical philosophy!? Speciesism is the fertile soil in which all bigotry grows! Go vegan comrades!
As a vegan, I still don't get the speciesism shit. Like, most vegans will still always prioritize people over animals. That doesn't mean we can't have animal rights or killing and eating them, but yeah, animals are necessary for a lot of medical research and termite infestations are still gonna be met with extermination.
The idea of speciesism is really simple. The idea is that Other animals are just as deserving of life as we are and the core assumption of animal agriculture; that by raising and maintaining the lives of animals We can decide when and how they die, is fallacious and inherently cruel. The arguments for this tend to center around how when the Nazis we’re designing concentration camps they looked to slaughterhouses for inspiration on how to do a mass extermination. That might sound like bougie Zionist veganism that doesn’t properly account for the value of human life. But I personally think it’s a profound idea because every genocide begins with the dehumanization of the enemy and the fact that dehumanization usually translates directly to “its ok to murder and brutalize them” is evidence that there’s something to the idea IMO. I think it’s debatable how Necessary or even valuable animals are for medical research and honestly pests like termites can be directly harmful to ones health and the health of their family so that kinda falls into a similar category of like what you do when attacked by an animal; you gotta kill the Animal or atleast get it very far away from you because otherwise it will physically harm you. We’re allowed to prioritize human lives over other animals just as any other species would with their own. We just can’t ethically capture or keep livestock with intent to slaughter because that’s just as bad as fattening up Some other person so you can eat them later.
In even simpler terms the argument boils down to pointing out the dangerous fallacy of the logic that we can rape and murder cows and other animals and it’s not ethically wrong because they aren’t human.
Just logically the concept of introducing an invasive species that steals nectar and pollen from endemic bees and other pollinators is doing harm to the environment and local biodiversity.
Honey, no. Bugs? Certainly a better protein option than meat in terms of environmental impact. Like others have said, I would if necessary, and the ethics aren’t as clear cut as eating larger mammals and sea creatures, But more than anything else I can’t imagine a situation other than some lovecraftian nightmare world where eating bugs makes more sense than eating beans. Also faux meats have gotten so good it just seems pointless Rn. Who knows though? Could be a crucial agricultural crop in LGSC!
I’m loving the vegan unity in this thread, who ever said veganism isn’t a coherent ethical philosophy!? Speciesism is the fertile soil in which all bigotry grows! Go vegan comrades!
As a vegan, I still don't get the speciesism shit. Like, most vegans will still always prioritize people over animals. That doesn't mean we can't have animal rights or killing and eating them, but yeah, animals are necessary for a lot of medical research and termite infestations are still gonna be met with extermination.
The idea of speciesism is really simple. The idea is that Other animals are just as deserving of life as we are and the core assumption of animal agriculture; that by raising and maintaining the lives of animals We can decide when and how they die, is fallacious and inherently cruel. The arguments for this tend to center around how when the Nazis we’re designing concentration camps they looked to slaughterhouses for inspiration on how to do a mass extermination. That might sound like bougie Zionist veganism that doesn’t properly account for the value of human life. But I personally think it’s a profound idea because every genocide begins with the dehumanization of the enemy and the fact that dehumanization usually translates directly to “its ok to murder and brutalize them” is evidence that there’s something to the idea IMO. I think it’s debatable how Necessary or even valuable animals are for medical research and honestly pests like termites can be directly harmful to ones health and the health of their family so that kinda falls into a similar category of like what you do when attacked by an animal; you gotta kill the Animal or atleast get it very far away from you because otherwise it will physically harm you. We’re allowed to prioritize human lives over other animals just as any other species would with their own. We just can’t ethically capture or keep livestock with intent to slaughter because that’s just as bad as fattening up Some other person so you can eat them later.
In even simpler terms the argument boils down to pointing out the dangerous fallacy of the logic that we can rape and murder cows and other animals and it’s not ethically wrong because they aren’t human.
Honey is worse than eating endemic bugs if you're comparing them.
Honey production has a lot of terrible suffering involved on top of being bad for the environment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clMNw_VO1xo
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Just logically the concept of introducing an invasive species that steals nectar and pollen from endemic bees and other pollinators is doing harm to the environment and local biodiversity.
Further evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUVXsmlifKM
That’s what I said lol but that said small scale beekeeping is fine and kinda good
Native beekeeping especially.