want a real vegan struggle session? Which lifestyle is more ethical; being a hunter who who only eats what you kill and doesn’t eat dairy or eggs, or being a lacto/ovo vegetarian?
Vegetarians are just omnis who are lying to themselves. Going to consume milk and eggs? Might as well just kill and way the cow and chicken too, it makes no difference.
Very true, “pescatarians” are even worse. I have way more respect for unapologetic omnis than vegetarians who are “concerned” with the ethics of their Food.
That said, it’s important to be patient with people on their food journeys. Quitting cheese especially is like quitting a drug. That’s why vegetarianism even exists and not the opposite path of quitting eggs/milk/cheese THEN meat. If you think about it that’s the path that makes more sense by any ethical/environmental/health standard (not that meat is good for you in any way) but no one does that because it’s way fucking harder to give up cheese. Why people cling to eggs though I don’t get. Eggs are overrated AF.
I had more trouble with eggs than cheese tbh, but each to their own. I'm also all for some patience, but gotta have the reality of milk and egg production shown to vegetarians.
They don't get a big special boy tick in my eyes, maybe because I skipped that step and don't know why the need it.
Nah, no idea. Just googled it and it's some sort of rock salt?
I think it as easy for me to skip it because I already loved cooking and cooked most of my own food. A little easier in Aus than other places in the world maybe - I hear getting fresh food is kinda fucked in a lot of the US
kinda fucked is an understatement. impossible for a sizeable percentage of the population, difficult for many more, and generally inconvenient otherwise.
pretty sure the u.s. just decided at some point that everything was fine coming out of a can
"If the deer ever do overpopulate an area, their numbers will reduce naturally through starvation, disease and lower fertility."
Thats literally the same argument hunters make. That its more ethical to shoot a door, than to let it slowly starve to death over winter because they're overpopulated. We have inexoribly changed the ecosystem with fencing and aggriculture. Deer can no longer freely disperse like they could 200 years ago.... so overpopulation DOES mean suffering.
And the link you provided has no actual scientific studies. There are lots of those out there.
But nah... just post blog spam and call us a made up name, lol
Literally one of the ONLY positive things about the US is we have amazing wildlife management. Its better than nearly every other country on Earth.
Overabundant might not be a scientific word but it is a real problem in a co-existant human–fauna society.
We killed all their predators and now there are too many deer. We hit them with cars, extremely often. They eat too much resources, eroding the land.
It is a problem we created and barring killing all people and ending society, directing hunters towards managing a population of deer that is growing with no limiters is a good option.
If you're proposing killing everyone so nature heals, go have fun jerking yourself off in the anprim corner.
We live in a real world where that's not happening and neither is reintroducing wolves into urban environments.
If hunters hunting overpopulated species of deer that are being hit by cars anyway reduces them eating farmed meat and helps us shift focus to tearing down the factory farming industry, good.
want a real vegan struggle session? Which lifestyle is more ethical; being a hunter who who only eats what you kill and doesn’t eat dairy or eggs, or being a lacto/ovo vegetarian?
Vegetarians are just omnis who are lying to themselves. Going to consume milk and eggs? Might as well just kill and way the cow and chicken too, it makes no difference.
Very true, “pescatarians” are even worse. I have way more respect for unapologetic omnis than vegetarians who are “concerned” with the ethics of their Food.
That said, it’s important to be patient with people on their food journeys. Quitting cheese especially is like quitting a drug. That’s why vegetarianism even exists and not the opposite path of quitting eggs/milk/cheese THEN meat. If you think about it that’s the path that makes more sense by any ethical/environmental/health standard (not that meat is good for you in any way) but no one does that because it’s way fucking harder to give up cheese. Why people cling to eggs though I don’t get. Eggs are overrated AF.
I had more trouble with eggs than cheese tbh, but each to their own. I'm also all for some patience, but gotta have the reality of milk and egg production shown to vegetarians.
They don't get a big special boy tick in my eyes, maybe because I skipped that step and don't know why the need it.
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Nah, no idea. Just googled it and it's some sort of rock salt?
I think it as easy for me to skip it because I already loved cooking and cooked most of my own food. A little easier in Aus than other places in the world maybe - I hear getting fresh food is kinda fucked in a lot of the US
kinda fucked is an understatement. impossible for a sizeable percentage of the population, difficult for many more, and generally inconvenient otherwise.
pretty sure the u.s. just decided at some point that everything was fine coming out of a can
Without a car my only reasonable option for food would be 7-Eleven.
theres a walmart like two and half miles away from me, so uh... ive got that going for me i guess.
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o7 Will do, we have an Indian grocer a couple of blocks down that we love.
Lacto/ovo vegetarians are so obviously worse that it's not even a contest.
This is the correct take, it’s vegan ideological unity all the way down! o7
being a hunter who who only eats what you kill
Especially when it's overpopulated white tailed deer.
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"If the deer ever do overpopulate an area, their numbers will reduce naturally through starvation, disease and lower fertility."
Thats literally the same argument hunters make. That its more ethical to shoot a door, than to let it slowly starve to death over winter because they're overpopulated. We have inexoribly changed the ecosystem with fencing and aggriculture. Deer can no longer freely disperse like they could 200 years ago.... so overpopulation DOES mean suffering.
And the link you provided has no actual scientific studies. There are lots of those out there.
But nah... just post blog spam and call us a made up name, lol
Literally one of the ONLY positive things about the US is we have amazing wildlife management. Its better than nearly every other country on Earth.
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Overabundant might not be a scientific word but it is a real problem in a co-existant human–fauna society.
We killed all their predators and now there are too many deer. We hit them with cars, extremely often. They eat too much resources, eroding the land.
It is a problem we created and barring killing all people and ending society, directing hunters towards managing a population of deer that is growing with no limiters is a good option.
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The root cause is humanity, eco fascist.
If you're proposing killing everyone so nature heals, go have fun jerking yourself off in the anprim corner.
We live in a real world where that's not happening and neither is reintroducing wolves into urban environments.
If hunters hunting overpopulated species of deer that are being hit by cars anyway reduces them eating farmed meat and helps us shift focus to tearing down the factory farming industry, good.
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