Marxism is a science, not a prophecy, and Marx was empirically wrong about quite a bit. Famously, he never thought socialism would first take root in Russia.
If you treat Marxism as a science with specific, limited predictive power, you see that movement towards socialism takes different forms in different environments. If you repeat an experiment with all the same variables you should get the same result, but if you change a million variables translating the theory from 19th-century Germany to 21st-century America you might get something different. And if you look at actual, successful revolutionaries you see this pattern borne out: Lenin and Mao didn't treat Marx like holy writ; they took what Marx got right and then wrote revolutionary manuals of their own for their own specific environments. The whole concept of scientific socialism is that you don't just dogmatically follow the past, and the whole concept of socialism in general is that we can actually change the world for the better and aren't just slaves to what came before us.
Revisionists always twist Marxism by using the “not a dogma” idea, but weirdly enough the “modern new Marxism” is always a petty bourgeois reformism. What a coincidence?! And what’s weirder still is that Mao and Lenin both had to fight against revisionist reformists too! How weird?
Your complete inability to see where you fit into history is pretty funny.
Yeah Succs betrayed us the last 100 times, but this time it’s different because of MaTeRiAl CoNdItIoNs!
We've covered this. 2020 America is pretty fucking different than 1917 Russia, and it doesn't matter if you're ideologically perfect if you refuse to work with 99% of the population.
I'm done here, champ. Go chase your tail with one of your twelve buddies you're starting that protracted people's war with.
Marxism is a science, not a prophecy, and Marx was empirically wrong about quite a bit. Famously, he never thought socialism would first take root in Russia.
If you treat Marxism as a science with specific, limited predictive power, you see that movement towards socialism takes different forms in different environments. If you repeat an experiment with all the same variables you should get the same result, but if you change a million variables translating the theory from 19th-century Germany to 21st-century America you might get something different. And if you look at actual, successful revolutionaries you see this pattern borne out: Lenin and Mao didn't treat Marx like holy writ; they took what Marx got right and then wrote revolutionary manuals of their own for their own specific environments. The whole concept of scientific socialism is that you don't just dogmatically follow the past, and the whole concept of socialism in general is that we can actually change the world for the better and aren't just slaves to what came before us.
Revisionists always twist Marxism by using the “not a dogma” idea, but weirdly enough the “modern new Marxism” is always a petty bourgeois reformism. What a coincidence?! And what’s weirder still is that Mao and Lenin both had to fight against revisionist reformists too! How weird?
Your complete inability to see where you fit into history is pretty funny.
Yeah Succs betrayed us the last 100 times, but this time it’s different because of MaTeRiAl CoNdItIoNs!
How can your 12-person protracted people's war fail with a leader this charismatic?
Weird how every communist revolution is composed of the masses and millions of people, and is opposed by the social democrats.
But truly America is exceptional and different and special so we need to accept the social democrats this time!
I bet they don't get that big by denouncing 99% of the population as so far right that they'll inevitably betray the revolution
Lenin routinely denounced and ousted social reformists. As did every communist leader.
We've covered this. 2020 America is pretty fucking different than 1917 Russia, and it doesn't matter if you're ideologically perfect if you refuse to work with 99% of the population.
I'm done here, champ. Go chase your tail with one of your twelve buddies you're starting that protracted people's war with.