They didn't even get banned lol, they just got suspended for 3 weeks. From what I understand, they were looking at their YouTube statistics during their livestreams and brought up Taiwan (which is apparently referred to as an independent country on Japanese YouTube, as opposed to a territory/region on English YouTube) on streams that were being simulcast on Bilibili in China. From what I understand the vtubers in question weren't being malicious, but some people in China saw this as attacking the one China policy, causing the streamers in question to get harassed by Chinese nationalist, as well as get in trouble with Bilibili. In response Hololive put out a statement saying that they would be suspended for 3 weeks, presumably to let the harassment from nationalists die down and to sort out any issues that may have been caused, after which they will resume their normal activities. Sounds like a shitty/dumb situation being responded to in a fairly reasonable way right?
Of course since we're talking about weebs, they took the suspensions to mean that Hololive might as well be taking orders directly from Xi himself and immediately started going on an anti-China crusade. The Hololive subreddit became indistinguishable from every other anti-China subreddit, complete with Winnie the pooh memes, calling mainland China "West Taiwan", and pretending that Taiwan has always been a perfect little angel that was definitely not an authoritarian dictatorship until 1987, and has definitely not committed massacres or imprisoned and executed thousands of political dissidents. Worst of all is that (allegedly) at least one of the vtubers for Hololive's China branch started getting harassment over this from anti-China people on twitter, and I saw a lot of people advocating for Hololive to cease operating in China altogether, essentially saying that the 6 or so vtubers in the China branch, as well as the various support staff that help them, should all lose their jobs just cause weebs are upset that 2 of their favorite vtubers aren't going to be streaming for the next 3 weeks.
Np, though with the exception of people advocating ditching Hololive China, take everything I wrote with a grain of salt. I'm fairly confident most of what I know is true, but at the same time the information is being filtered through people who aren't being very calm on top of a lot of information having to be translated between 3 different languages and interpreted by 3 different cultures who clearly don't always see eye to eye, so there's a good chance that some details have been skewed or left out. On top of that, the actual streams that caused the problems were archived and made private before anyone could clip them, so almost no one seems to actually know what precisely was said or done by the vtubers to cause this situation.
it’s fascinating to see the same sort of overblown hysteria gamers had towards Jack Thompson or Anita Sarkeesian being directed towards geopolitics
That's what people get for developing their understanding of the world purely off of memes and right wing propaganda I suppose. Seriously though, people were spamming braindead Taiwanese nationalist memes and propaganda on the official Hololive subreddit which is run directly by Hololive. Hololive is presumably trying to smooth over issues with Chinese fans and the Chinese corporations they work with, so having Hololive's official subreddit overrun with anti-China weebs is only going to hurt them in that regard (and by extension, the vtubers these weebs claim to care about), though Hololive's mods seem to have finally gotten their act together and started purging the flood of anti-China posts. Also, it's just sad seeing people try to own a super power through the same 3 stale memes every time a situation like this happens. Like bitch, shut the fuck up, Whiney the Pooh was never banned in China and Xi Jinping doesn't give a shit, go away and actually read a book or at least come up with a better joke ffs.
Also, it’s just sad seeing people try to own a super power through the same 3 stale memes every time a situation like this happens.
It's basically just the same Western slacktivist mindset that was behind Kony2012. "Guys, by posting and consuming we can totally nab this child abusing warlord!!!!"
In the mix are also embarrassing "THEY TARGETED GAMERS. GAMERS" type delusions of grandeur, Western chauvinism and over a hundred years of ingrained anti-communist fearmongering
Yeah, it honestly sucks. The r/hololive sub was a pretty alright and nice sub tbh, but this Chinese controversy has made the sub insufferable recently with some of the dumbest geopolitical analysis from weebs yet.
At the same time, the vtubers should've never gotten suspended for such a minor thing, at least not for 3 weeks, and the Chinese nationalist obviously overreacted to it. And yeah, there's also Hololive China to take into consideration, they shouldn't be in the crossfire of this, and the people saying to get rid of Hololive China entirely, in turn hurting the Chinese vtubers, are reactionary af.
Seriously sucks, because a lot of people were enjoying the vtuber memes that came from Bilibili too. Hopefully it doesn't create a longterm divide between the fans.
You would think, right? Another Hololive vtuber, Aloe, accidentally leaked her personal twitter and got doxxed a few weeks ago and Cover gave her a suspension for 3 weeks. She actually ended up quitting Hololive all together after 3 weeks because she was so stressed about the whole situation. Hololive reddit fans were angry back then too when that happened, but it seems like they're MUCH MORE angrier now. Because this time, it's about China, which gives the reddit weebs an excuse to be Sinophobic and a target which pretty much engulfed the entire subreddit.
Though, we shouldn't excuse some of the Chinese nationalist fans either, just like r/hololive, they were also toxic in this situation as well. it's just a shitshow all around. Really, just a weird niche weeb conflict in the corner of the internet.
Yeah, it’s some black magic fuckery. I think it’s real people somehow rigged to like a motion tracker that puts the anime girl model over them in the stream.
They didn't even get banned lol, they just got suspended for 3 weeks. From what I understand, they were looking at their YouTube statistics during their livestreams and brought up Taiwan (which is apparently referred to as an independent country on Japanese YouTube, as opposed to a territory/region on English YouTube) on streams that were being simulcast on Bilibili in China. From what I understand the vtubers in question weren't being malicious, but some people in China saw this as attacking the one China policy, causing the streamers in question to get harassed by Chinese nationalist, as well as get in trouble with Bilibili. In response Hololive put out a statement saying that they would be suspended for 3 weeks, presumably to let the harassment from nationalists die down and to sort out any issues that may have been caused, after which they will resume their normal activities. Sounds like a shitty/dumb situation being responded to in a fairly reasonable way right?
Of course since we're talking about weebs, they took the suspensions to mean that Hololive might as well be taking orders directly from Xi himself and immediately started going on an anti-China crusade. The Hololive subreddit became indistinguishable from every other anti-China subreddit, complete with Winnie the pooh memes, calling mainland China "West Taiwan", and pretending that Taiwan has always been a perfect little angel that was definitely not an authoritarian dictatorship until 1987, and has definitely not committed massacres or imprisoned and executed thousands of political dissidents. Worst of all is that (allegedly) at least one of the vtubers for Hololive's China branch started getting harassment over this from anti-China people on twitter, and I saw a lot of people advocating for Hololive to cease operating in China altogether, essentially saying that the 6 or so vtubers in the China branch, as well as the various support staff that help them, should all lose their jobs just cause weebs are upset that 2 of their favorite vtubers aren't going to be streaming for the next 3 weeks.
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Np, though with the exception of people advocating ditching Hololive China, take everything I wrote with a grain of salt. I'm fairly confident most of what I know is true, but at the same time the information is being filtered through people who aren't being very calm on top of a lot of information having to be translated between 3 different languages and interpreted by 3 different cultures who clearly don't always see eye to eye, so there's a good chance that some details have been skewed or left out. On top of that, the actual streams that caused the problems were archived and made private before anyone could clip them, so almost no one seems to actually know what precisely was said or done by the vtubers to cause this situation.
That's what people get for developing their understanding of the world purely off of memes and right wing propaganda I suppose. Seriously though, people were spamming braindead Taiwanese nationalist memes and propaganda on the official Hololive subreddit which is run directly by Hololive. Hololive is presumably trying to smooth over issues with Chinese fans and the Chinese corporations they work with, so having Hololive's official subreddit overrun with anti-China weebs is only going to hurt them in that regard (and by extension, the vtubers these weebs claim to care about), though Hololive's mods seem to have finally gotten their act together and started purging the flood of anti-China posts. Also, it's just sad seeing people try to own a super power through the same 3 stale memes every time a situation like this happens. Like bitch, shut the fuck up, Whiney the Pooh was never banned in China and Xi Jinping doesn't give a shit, go away and actually read a book or at least come up with a better joke ffs.
It's basically just the same Western slacktivist mindset that was behind Kony2012. "Guys, by posting and consuming we can totally nab this child abusing warlord!!!!"
In the mix are also embarrassing "THEY TARGETED GAMERS. GAMERS" type delusions of grandeur, Western chauvinism and over a hundred years of ingrained anti-communist fearmongering
Yeah, it honestly sucks. The r/hololive sub was a pretty alright and nice sub tbh, but this Chinese controversy has made the sub insufferable recently with some of the dumbest geopolitical analysis from weebs yet. At the same time, the vtubers should've never gotten suspended for such a minor thing, at least not for 3 weeks, and the Chinese nationalist obviously overreacted to it. And yeah, there's also Hololive China to take into consideration, they shouldn't be in the crossfire of this, and the people saying to get rid of Hololive China entirely, in turn hurting the Chinese vtubers, are reactionary af.
Seriously sucks, because a lot of people were enjoying the vtuber memes that came from Bilibili too. Hopefully it doesn't create a longterm divide between the fans.
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You would think, right? Another Hololive vtuber, Aloe, accidentally leaked her personal twitter and got doxxed a few weeks ago and Cover gave her a suspension for 3 weeks. She actually ended up quitting Hololive all together after 3 weeks because she was so stressed about the whole situation. Hololive reddit fans were angry back then too when that happened, but it seems like they're MUCH MORE angrier now. Because this time, it's about China, which gives the reddit weebs an excuse to be Sinophobic and a target which pretty much engulfed the entire subreddit.
Though, we shouldn't excuse some of the Chinese nationalist fans either, just like r/hololive, they were also toxic in this situation as well. it's just a shitshow all around. Really, just a weird niche weeb conflict in the corner of the internet.
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On Twitch...?
Yeah, it’s some black magic fuckery. I think it’s real people somehow rigged to like a motion tracker that puts the anime girl model over them in the stream.