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  • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I know the gravel teens are in over their head, but this honestly gives me some hope in my regular doomer state. I sent their first video to my friend i'm trying to radicalize and he liked it and wanted to talk to me about it.

    I really hope this becomes something good.

      • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        they dont normalize the term, they kill the meaning that it previously had, the alt right used normal terms and turn them into fascist rhetoric, the US socdems used Left terms like people's war for support of the useless socdem movement in the US, not MLs or Anarchists ones.

        they are just gonna tame leftist sentiment in the US with their moderate fascism to save the empire, just like the first Social democrats in europe created the ideology to curtain communism and The global south is gonna pay for it.

  • sleepdealer [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I don't mind socdems introducing liberals to more progressive ideas/ figures. I just HATE when they default to anti communism. This gives me slight hope that the Gravell Teens might break that trend.

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Well, socdems aren't exactly riding high right now. Corbyn was a bust, Bernie was a bust, and the social democratic welfare states which existed in the US and Europe are being scrapped for parts. Last time around, the Capitalists made concessions to the working class as a play to maintain power. That resulted in large material gains for the labor aristocracy and an air of legitimacy for the social democratic political parties. It seems clear that those concessions are off the table at this juncture, and social democrats have no answers for us.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's like the civil rights movement. They cooperated with MLK's civil disobedience movement because they were scared of the violent disobedience movement that was happening in parallel.

        They created social democratic policies because they thought, if it can happen to the fucking Romanovs, what's stopping it from happening to me, some oil company executive?

      • sleepdealer [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I do agree, but I've been an avowed communist for some time now, though I started as a SocDem due mostly to Bernie. Do you think their recent failures make SocDems a worse candidate for dislodging borderline leftists from liberalism?

      • Nails [she/her,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        it should have been obvious social democrats never had anything to offer, what social democrat do you remember from history for the power of their reforms, the strength of their convictions and the popular success and love elicited? none, even fucking Thatcher and Reagan do better on name recognition than the damn social democrats

  • TaurenWarShaman [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Huh.

    Well that’s weird.

    Good thing PragerU is a legitimate educational resource beloved by the Western Industrial Proletarian Youth Groups and the Gravel Teens are just superstructural underdogs ironically becoming Maoists. No sparks or chain lightning here!