• Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    3 months ago

    Reminder that the bear was a wild shaped druid, aka a person, and not like, a regular bear.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      3 months ago

      "This little girl is actually a 3000 year old vampire" excuse

      • somename [she/her]
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        3 months ago

        Not really the same, simply because there’s not a mass contingent of real life bear fuckers that this would be encouraging and supporting.

      • HexBeara
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        1 month ago

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        • Awoo [she/her]
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          3 months ago

          It does have sentience and can consent though

          So can the 3000 year old vampire with the body of an 8 year old.

          • CarmineCatboy2 [he/him]
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            3 months ago

            nerd actually some vampire lore states that a vampire turned that young would retain the impulsiveness and the mind of a child and therefore they cannot consent

          • HexBeara
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            1 month ago

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          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            3 months ago

            Sure, okay. So let's be consequentialists here. 3000 year old with the body of an 8 year old as a fetish generally would mean that if acted on the victims would be fairly defenseless. Someone plays bg3 and genuinely wants to fuck a bear, if acted on the perpetrator would die a horrific death and the would be victim would carry on its day. There is no realistic scenario where someone is gonna fuck a bear, so who cares if they want to?

                • Gay_Tomato [they/them, it/its]
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                  3 months ago

                  If it gives you peace of mind yes. I don't think anyone was trying to call you an awful person (At least I wasn't) but both of these things are awful for the same reason so it isn't the most clean thing to argue about without going into libertain shit.

      • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        More of a "The Pokemon Ditto can breed with a dead tree, an electric rat, a set of keys, a whale, an ice cream cone, a meteorite, a bear trap and a kangaroo" excuse

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 months ago

        I'm not excusing anything. If people want to fuck their magically transmogrified druid situationship then more power to them. Have fun. Definitely don't tell your bearfriend to sit on your face a bear weighs 800 lbs.

      • Formerlyfarman [none/use name]
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        3 months ago

        Even if it was just a bear, the bear can consent. He can easily mail you and eat you, so you asume if it's going along with you it's consenting, same argument mc afee used to justify his afair with that whale

        • Kuori [she/her]
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          3 months ago

          like why doesn't it talk or have more human mannerisms or anything?

          from now on all druids must choose between winnie the poo and bugs bunny for their wildshape forms, expanding to allow the choice of the tasmanian devil at level 8

      • brainw0rms
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        2 days ago

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      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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        3 months ago

        Would you say ageplay is problematic?

        I'm actually quite interested in an answer.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          3 months ago

          It's weird roleplay as some form of escapism. If it's consenting adults I put it alongside abuse and rape roleplay fantasies common in the bdsm community. It CAN be problematic the way some people engage with it, just like bdsm, but probably is not when it's approached by people engaging in it properly? I put the question mark there because I can't really say with complete certainty without deeper investigation and experience that I simply do not have.

          • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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            3 months ago

            How is a person, pretending to be a species that can't consent, less suspect than a person pretending to be a child that can't consent?

            I see the bear roleplay as "weird but not wrong", but I have no experience with speciesplay. I do however have experience of being asked to do ageplay but not having that in myself.

            Not trying to struggle session or anything, just trying to philosophize. I suppose a guiding value here is "the mind is prevalent over the body".

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              3 months ago

              Two different things.

              One is titillating content for consumption where sex with an animal is made "ok" by creating a scenario in which it's not just an animal but actually a 3000 year old vampire, you get me.

              The other is not fiction at all, it is two adult human beings in a private bedroom doing consenting roleplay with one another.

              I generally agree with others pointing out that the perspective on this changes because bears could rip a person in half. If you substituted it for a dog though with no other changes... yikes-1yikes-3