Like, hate me by all means, but at least know what it is you hate. Don’t say “antifa are the real fascists”. Don’t call me a “socialist liberal anarchist tankie”. For fucks sake, Marxism isn’t “forcing people to wear a mask”. This shit makes me wanna warp to another galaxy.
Are children unaffected by politics? Why should they be left out? Do cops not kill kids? Do billionaires not starve kids? Are kids unaffected by abortion access?
I draw my line at ~12, obviously under that I assume they were trained, if possibly a teenager I can believe they formed their own opinion, and we should absolutely encourage teens who care to get involved with the political ASAP so they can realize the bullshit before adulthood crushes their curiosity.
12 is about where I would agree too. It depends on the topic and the scale, as well as the specific child.
I also think "indoctrinated" is the literal correct term, rather than trained
Hmm...so I think most political 16 year old's are indoctrinated too. I say trained with young kids as they have no idea what they're saying, it is just works they've been conditioned to repeat. But absolutely, being conditioned to repeat dogma is one of the earliest steps of indoctrination. It's like the Pledge of Allegiance. We were all (in the US) trained to say it, but it never indoctrinated me with actually believing those words once I was old enough to understand.
"affected" should not be a sufficient condition to entry. They should be left out because politics are complex concepts. Of course the more you define "politics" to include basic human rights, these lines will be blurred. That's why I used concepts like abortion and funding in my comment. Kids saying "everyone should have healthcare" is not political either imo.
The statement "everyone should have healthcare" is absolutely a political statement, as it relates to the way we structure society. Because we don't live in a world in which everyone has healthcare, or even one in which everyone agrees that everyone should have it, it's even a controversial political statement.
And in what world are human rights not a political matter?