Maybe this is beneath mention, but Rufo is failing to understand an extremely simple argument. The original original argument: "Religion declined, then woke happened, causation?!?!" The counter: "The US is extremely religious and also extremely woke, so irreligiosity clearly is not a majority factor determining wokeness" Rufo: "Obviously something can be both religious and woke at the same time" He's restating a premise of the argument as though it is a refutation of the conclusion.

idk, I just hate people being this willfully illiterate even aside from the stupidity of the discussion in the first place. "Wokeness" is like "Satanism" in boomer minds, a mostly imaginary religion that they need to fight a crusade against.