I learned to code and all I got was an inbox full of spam and no job offers.
Sure anyone can "learn to code" but thats not what software development is. I'm in my final year at university and haven't taken a "coding" course in two and a half years. Hell, the last time I programed anything was 18 months ago. The real meat of computer science and "coding" is actually a shitload of discrete math thats already super hard to learn in structured classes. Theres no fucking way its realistic to expect someone working two jobs, or even one miserable job, to be able to take the time to teach it to themselves through some bullshit online courses.
"Learn to code" is the biggest fucking neolib scam that exists. Sure you finished the Codecademy python course and it took you days and weeks of effort, but when the interviewer asks "cool, so how could we optimize this to run in O(n * log(n)) time" youre probably gonna be fucked if you havent studied algorithms. How do you know which algorithms to study? You dont. Because they dont teach you that when you learn to "code". "Coding" isn't even a real thing. You don't just learn a language and suddenly magically know how to make everything. Just because I have the entire Java syntax memorized doesn't mean I can make you shit if I don't know how the hell to accomplish what youre asking. Its not that fucking simple.
"Coding" also really fucking blows if youre not into it and it still kinda fucking blows if you are. Wanna know what sucks worse than coding, though? Having the code you write make someone else millions upon millions of dollars and seeing only pennies of it. Nothing is more soul-sucking than knowing that 99% of your surplus value is being sucked away as you see another post about how the CEO of your company is on his way to becoming a xnzjcillionaire or whatever the fuck.
Computers are cool if youre into them.
Programming can be fun if thats your thing.
"Learning to code" while youre already being constantly exploited is a stupid fucking unrealistic expectation that neolibs who know nothing about "coding" invented so that they could sell you dreams, and then exploit you even harder if you achieve them.
Fuck anyone who tells you to learn to code, and fuck me for falling for it. I wanted to be an artist. I wanted to make fucking music. Now I make other people millions for pennies at the cost of my soul.
Also you can totally pass a CS degree at a directional state university without actually knowing shit about how to code. And the whiteboard questions they ask in interviews to prove you passed the data structures and algorithms course don't have much to do with what your actual job is, but what you wish your job would be.
I’ve had the opposite experience where all the discrete math and algorithm complexity stuff I learned in college is completely useless in my actual job.
Turns out, making a Tower of Hanoi solver doesn’t have much application in enterprise software. Like why did my degree require 3 courses on OS and Assembly, but no full stack development?
Luckily I work in a tech department of a non-tech industry so I only had to answer personality questions instead of whiteboard bullshit to get my job.
I definitely make more money than a lot of people my age and I’m not in poverty, but it’s not enough to be a single-income household, buy a house in most cities, or go to the doctor if I haven’t met my deductible.
I’m pretty underpaid and I’m about to be passed over for a promotion because I’m paid too little to get that big of a pay raise.
Yep. I'm a graduate student in CS. The market sucks. I'm trying to do research and the only job considerations I routinely see are ghoulish retail business logic.
I learned to code and all I got was an inbox full of spam and no job offers.
Sure anyone can "learn to code" but thats not what software development is. I'm in my final year at university and haven't taken a "coding" course in two and a half years. Hell, the last time I programed anything was 18 months ago. The real meat of computer science and "coding" is actually a shitload of discrete math thats already super hard to learn in structured classes. Theres no fucking way its realistic to expect someone working two jobs, or even one miserable job, to be able to take the time to teach it to themselves through some bullshit online courses.
"Learn to code" is the biggest fucking neolib scam that exists. Sure you finished the Codecademy python course and it took you days and weeks of effort, but when the interviewer asks "cool, so how could we optimize this to run in O(n * log(n)) time" youre probably gonna be fucked if you havent studied algorithms. How do you know which algorithms to study? You dont. Because they dont teach you that when you learn to "code". "Coding" isn't even a real thing. You don't just learn a language and suddenly magically know how to make everything. Just because I have the entire Java syntax memorized doesn't mean I can make you shit if I don't know how the hell to accomplish what youre asking. Its not that fucking simple.
"Coding" also really fucking blows if youre not into it and it still kinda fucking blows if you are. Wanna know what sucks worse than coding, though? Having the code you write make someone else millions upon millions of dollars and seeing only pennies of it. Nothing is more soul-sucking than knowing that 99% of your surplus value is being sucked away as you see another post about how the CEO of your company is on his way to becoming a xnzjcillionaire or whatever the fuck.
Computers are cool if youre into them. Programming can be fun if thats your thing. "Learning to code" while youre already being constantly exploited is a stupid fucking unrealistic expectation that neolibs who know nothing about "coding" invented so that they could sell you dreams, and then exploit you even harder if you achieve them.
Fuck anyone who tells you to learn to code, and fuck me for falling for it. I wanted to be an artist. I wanted to make fucking music. Now I make other people millions for pennies at the cost of my soul.
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Exactly. I can only reinvent the wheel so many times before hating everything.
Its useless overproduction.
Imagine where software would be today without all the capitalist bullshit getting in the way.
Also you can totally pass a CS degree at a directional state university without actually knowing shit about how to code. And the whiteboard questions they ask in interviews to prove you passed the data structures and algorithms course don't have much to do with what your actual job is, but what you wish your job would be.
"Can you design intricate and complex software that could potentially better the lives of millions?"
"Yes"
"Cool. Go convert all the menus on our website to dropdown menus so it looks modern"
Yeah, the point of a CS degree is the academic discipline and craft of computing. If you focus on the math, you don't program that often at all.
I’ve had the opposite experience where all the discrete math and algorithm complexity stuff I learned in college is completely useless in my actual job.
Turns out, making a Tower of Hanoi solver doesn’t have much application in enterprise software. Like why did my degree require 3 courses on OS and Assembly, but no full stack development?
Luckily I work in a tech department of a non-tech industry so I only had to answer personality questions instead of whiteboard bullshit to get my job.
I definitely make more money than a lot of people my age and I’m not in poverty, but it’s not enough to be a single-income household, buy a house in most cities, or go to the doctor if I haven’t met my deductible.
I’m pretty underpaid and I’m about to be passed over for a promotion because I’m paid too little to get that big of a pay raise.
Yep. I'm a graduate student in CS. The market sucks. I'm trying to do research and the only job considerations I routinely see are ghoulish retail business logic.