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    • MrsPacMan [none/use name]
      41·
      4 years ago

      Admins know what the grievances are. They can reach out to the greater trans community.

      • Awoo [she/her]
        2·
        4 years ago

        Can you stop speaking like you represent all trans people please? You don't. There are a lot of us here that don't agree with you. This splinter group looks like it's what? 10 people at most?

        • MrsPacMan [none/use name]
          34·
          4 years ago

          100+ trans comrades. and there seemed to be a positive response to my thread so at least a proportion of people agree with me.

          • Awoo [she/her]
            2·
            4 years ago

            X to doubt. The spam I've seen in new isn't anywhere remotely close to that lol, nor is the participation in any discussion on the topic.

            • MrsPacMan [none/use name]
              23·
              4 years ago

              Ok. explain why the trans channel was active on the server. but it's a ghost town now.

              • Awoo [she/her]
                1·
                4 years ago

                Because discord as a platform centres each channel around a core usergroup of 10-15 active users.

                  • Awoo [she/her]
                    1·
                    4 years ago

                    Wherever you went. But as I said above, it's a group of 10 or so and doesn't represent "all trans people" here whatsoever. I also saw the attempts to get MLs riled up in the Tankie Bunker discord with claims that MLs were being unduly targeted and that was nonsense too. Bad faith oozes off of this when you make rediculously hyped up claims of hundreds of people being involved instead of the very grounded reality of it being a single core group of 10 or so.

        • MrsPacMan [none/use name]
          14·
          4 years ago

          I already posted my concerns and the thread got locked. Why should I have any confidence the community will be heard out in good faith when no actions have been taken to indicate that they will be. The issues are well known at this point. It's not an issue of stating them. it's an issue of them yet being addressed.

            • stalintoesucker [none/use name]
              ·
              4 years ago

              if the trans mod of a trans community was wrong about their grievances - it's happened in the past - he should criticize it? it's ridiculous to say every grievance held by every trans person is correct, people are wrong a lot- i can remember many reddit dramas where multiple trans mods were expressing their grievances and they contradicted each other, leading to endless drama

            • MrsPacMan [none/use name]
              28·
              4 years ago

              Ok. Yelling at me that I'm not going by the right procedure or whatever isn't going to make the trans community automatically feel comfortable here again. And it's not my responsibility. And the Administration hiding is trans-exclusionary structure behind trans mods that are willing to ignore it doesn't really do anything positive either

            • MrsPacMan [none/use name]
              17·
              4 years ago

              If you really want to make a difference I'm sure the people from the shork server would be willing to talk it out with you. Like they were willing to talk with briggs about it until they decided to ignore any offers the shork server made to have that conversation. Otherwise you're just playing cover for the cis mods that don't care.

                      • Ryaina [she/her]
                        1·
                        4 years ago

                        Ok, really. What are you trying to accomplish here? what more can we do? I'm one of the dev's. I'm trans. I personally made sure to advocate for the removal of every moderator and admin who abused their power or said hurtful and or inappropriate things. and they were. The mod team for the trans spaces is exclusively trans no, there is no hold over. I'm helping build features explicitly to protect my people.

                        So serious question: what grievances are left that haven't been addressed? we arn't being pedantic when we ask this. we legitimently don't know how else to help. we want to help. :purple heart:

                        • MrsPacMan [none/use name]
                          14·
                          4 years ago

                          Well if want to name a big thing. People that do name their grievences keep getting deleted and banned so we can't even start until that's fixed.

                                • MrsPacMan [none/use name]
                                  14·
                                  4 years ago

                                  discord didn't fail. the admin team did.

                                  you can reach out to them if you actually try

                                    • MrsPacMan [none/use name]
                                      19·
                                      4 years ago

                                      You don't need to be a discord admin to reach out. If you really cared you could do that bare minimum, atleast.

                                      • FiresideHats [none/use name]
                                        ·
                                        4 years ago

                                        Earlier you said "it's not my responsibility" to talk to this mod who is trans and working hard to make things better about how to do that

                                        Now you're saying it's this mods responsibility to go on Discord, which she mentioned repeatedly she doesn't use because it often induces dysphoria, and if she doesn't it means she doesn't really care about building a good space for trans and nonbinary people*

                                        Hopefully you see that on a person to person level that's pretty mean.

                                        It seems like you're saying you and your group are happy to stay on the discord and don't really care either way about being on Lemmy. I'm not sure if that's accurate but it's my impression.