Vote.

    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Because objectively PSL getting more votes legitimizes them and draws politically active people towards them. That's literally the whole reason for running. You guys just want to own the libs by splitting their vote. I'm not a child and I see the benefit of voting for PSL.

        • PhaseFour [he/him]
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          that’s more evidence for voting being fucked

          Why do you need more evidence lmao

          5% election fundarinos, at least if the feds fuck them out of it

          They will strip funding if Libertarians or Greens break 5%. That's not a question.

          literally why vote PSL outside of some magic wishful thinking that getting a fraction of a percent or changing that to 1% will “get us more supporters”

          If someone asks me why I support La Riva, I can give an honest answer. That's about it. "Electoral strategizing" is embarrassing when the rules will always change to fuck the working class.

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              it’s a good thing hawkins seems p. cool then too

              He does not recognize that the existing state must be crushed for any political change to happen. That's a huge misunderstanding of reality.

              Man it’s a shame constantly changing rules isn’t useful propaganda to serve to radicalize the fucked over working class

              Correct. It is not useful propaganda. Everyone knows politics is rigged.

              We should vote for a party that has 0% chance of prompting any of that to happen

              From what I've seen this year, PSL has done significantly more to radicalize the working class than Greens. I have seen literally nothing from the Greens.

              They are just a bourgeois democratic party. All they do is run elections. The working class needs mass popular politics to create change. The Greens are not serious about building that. They are, at best, not helpful.

                • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                  yeah we goina crush that state by voting lmabpo

                  What part of "I'm voting for La Riva because she's the only one whose politics I support" do you not understand?

                  I never said that we're going to "crush the state" by voting. I said that I do not agree with Howie's politics. And I'm not going to make up some lie about why I support him.

                  you’re out here with this VOTE PSL VOTES = MORE SUPPORT

                  I literally never said this.

                  Like literally why the fuck not just vote greens SINCE IT’S A FUCKING BOURGEOIS ELECTION THAT DOESN’T MATTER and then actually put your real life effort into organizing with the PSL?

                  Why, exactly, should I vote for Greens? You never gave an answer to this that was convincing. "Well, maybe this time the ruling parties change the rules, people will care" is not convincing.

        • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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          Greens getting 5% or more would also be a signal to libs and dems, not that y’all give a shit, that might lead to at least some capitulation

          the party most likely to actually break any electoral threshold AND which has candidates who could, idk, win state or local elections maybe

          :cope: