ah yes the metric by which you're considered successful is whether your name is on the ballot lol. PSL actually organizes poor working class people, something the green party has never cared about. if i go join the green party in NYC right now what sort of organizing and work are they doing here and what have they done during covid and the protests here in the city? Nothing. A non existent party, amazing.
Which is it, getting on the ballot gets your name out there for more people to see, or getting on the ballot isn't actually important? I can't seem to follow your cope.
the PSL has been advocating and fighting for socialism for years and actually furthering the movement in significant and important ways, the greens barely just started even mentioning it, and also explicitly coming out against "state socialism". i couldnt give a fuck about ballots, the greens do fuck all when it comes down to it, so wtf does it matter that they get these votes if it never translated into anything more than a sparing campaign for climate advocacy? shit Sunrise just got founded and they already blew the fucking Greens out of relevancy in that field.
i dont give a fuck about the ballots in terms of using that as the metric to an org being successful or not. "There is no metric by which the PSL is could be considered more successful." 🙄
"Look at all these states where PSL is on the ballot!" to "Actually it's not that important, fuck being on the ballot..."
You keep talking like I'm supposed to judge the PSL by what's in their fucking heart. Intentions don't matter. The current 100+ Greens that hold local dog catcher and chairman of the annual hot dog parade committee hold and exercise more power than the PSL has in its entire history. I'm not gonna be lectured on the superiority of a fucking party that ran Roseanne Barr for president.
You're a fucking idiot if you think the green party holding bullshit positions in small cities in random places means anything. The PSL literally runs radical tenants unions that are capable of staging rent strikes. They've shown in the BLM protests that they're able to lead people to break the law in protest. There is no current or former Green Party member who could rouse a crowd of thousands like Eugene Puryear did in Philly (no official count but it looked bigger than most Bernie rallies). They don't have state power but they have people power. That's something you need to understand if you want Socialism.
Literally the two Green Party candidates who are Chair and a Commisioner of the Rent Stabilization Board in Berkeley, CA have more power to effect the lives of renter's than the like 50 tenants unions the PSL has organized in its history.
The PSL doesn't have "people power". If they had people power, I wouldn't be looking at a map where they are only on the ballot in 13 states, when the primmary requirement for getting on the ballot is getting people to sign a petition. People didn't show up the that rally in Philadelphia because Eugene Puryear and the PSL were involved, they showed up because it was a BLM rally in a diverse, left-leaning city in the middle of one of the largest protest movements against racism in this country's history. Don't confuse doing entryism with having power. No one was calling that rally the "PSL rally".
While we are on the topic of Eugene Puryear, remind me, which party did he run under in DC, in between his two attempts to be PSL VP candidate?
Thanks for posting some evidence that the Greens are helpful to the working class.
Which ones are green? https://www.cityofberkeley.info/Rent_Stabilization_Board/Home/Meet/Contact_the_Board.aspx
This site says the chair is a democrat: https://votersedge.org/ca/en/election/2020-03-03/alameda-county/member-democratic-party-county-central-committee-assembly-district-15-alameda-portion/paola-laverde
ah yes the metric by which you're considered successful is whether your name is on the ballot lol. PSL actually organizes poor working class people, something the green party has never cared about. if i go join the green party in NYC right now what sort of organizing and work are they doing here and what have they done during covid and the protests here in the city? Nothing. A non existent party, amazing.
Which is it, getting on the ballot gets your name out there for more people to see, or getting on the ballot isn't actually important? I can't seem to follow your cope.
the PSL has been advocating and fighting for socialism for years and actually furthering the movement in significant and important ways, the greens barely just started even mentioning it, and also explicitly coming out against "state socialism". i couldnt give a fuck about ballots, the greens do fuck all when it comes down to it, so wtf does it matter that they get these votes if it never translated into anything more than a sparing campaign for climate advocacy? shit Sunrise just got founded and they already blew the fucking Greens out of relevancy in that field.
"I couldn't give a fuck about the ballots, that's why I made this post about the PSL being on the ballot."
i dont give a fuck about the ballots in terms of using that as the metric to an org being successful or not. "There is no metric by which the PSL is could be considered more successful." 🙄
"Look at all these states where PSL is on the ballot!" to "Actually it's not that important, fuck being on the ballot..."
You keep talking like I'm supposed to judge the PSL by what's in their fucking heart. Intentions don't matter. The current 100+ Greens that hold local dog catcher and chairman of the annual hot dog parade committee hold and exercise more power than the PSL has in its entire history. I'm not gonna be lectured on the superiority of a fucking party that ran Roseanne Barr for president.
You're a fucking idiot if you think the green party holding bullshit positions in small cities in random places means anything. The PSL literally runs radical tenants unions that are capable of staging rent strikes. They've shown in the BLM protests that they're able to lead people to break the law in protest. There is no current or former Green Party member who could rouse a crowd of thousands like Eugene Puryear did in Philly (no official count but it looked bigger than most Bernie rallies). They don't have state power but they have people power. That's something you need to understand if you want Socialism.
Literally the two Green Party candidates who are Chair and a Commisioner of the Rent Stabilization Board in Berkeley, CA have more power to effect the lives of renter's than the like 50 tenants unions the PSL has organized in its history.
The PSL doesn't have "people power". If they had people power, I wouldn't be looking at a map where they are only on the ballot in 13 states, when the primmary requirement for getting on the ballot is getting people to sign a petition. People didn't show up the that rally in Philadelphia because Eugene Puryear and the PSL were involved, they showed up because it was a BLM rally in a diverse, left-leaning city in the middle of one of the largest protest movements against racism in this country's history. Don't confuse doing entryism with having power. No one was calling that rally the "PSL rally".
While we are on the topic of Eugene Puryear, remind me, which party did he run under in DC, in between his two attempts to be PSL VP candidate?
Thanks for posting some evidence that the Greens are helpful to the working class.
Which ones are green? https://www.cityofberkeley.info/Rent_Stabilization_Board/Home/Meet/Contact_the_Board.aspx
This site says the chair is a democrat: https://votersedge.org/ca/en/election/2020-03-03/alameda-county/member-democratic-party-county-central-committee-assembly-district-15-alameda-portion/paola-laverde