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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Playing videogames is fun. People that play videogames are cool.

    People that identify as a Gamer™ are all terrible.

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      100% Gamer culture and the identity around it is the problem. The Gamers™ build their entire identities around it and that's not healthy.

      It wasn't always this bad and there are still some good game communities out there, though they are rare as most of them have become overrun with alt right stuff since Gamergate and beyond.

      One thing that really drives me nuts with Gamers is how so many of them defend the gaming industry's exploitation as mindless consumers and don't think twice about getting ripped off. They'll complain about women in video games, then go the length to defend micro-transactions and other nonsense. I remember back when you had expansion sets for PC games instead of DLC. There were even some expansions that were better than the original game (Starcraft: Brood War is the first to come to mind). Now everything is DLC to squeeze money out of the player. Some games don't even release as full games, you need to buy a bunch of DLC crap to finish the full package.

      Recently Nintendo released some package of the 3D Mario games and sold it for $60. Gamers didn't think twice about it as they sit there praising Nintendo for re-releasing these old games and charging a full 60 dollars for it (and they couldn't even fix the god awful camera controls to Mario 64).

      EDIT: Another thing that grinds my gears on gamers and the modern gaming industry - the focus on multiplayer games. Doom 2016 and it's sequel Eternal were such a breath of fresh air to have an FPS game with an actual focus on single player. I'll even defend Doom 3 which a lot of people hate these days, but that game was designed around a single player campaign that lasted more than 10 hours.

      • OhWell [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The only worthwhile people I’ve ever met that played games casually as a hobby have been console people.

        Oh boy. Wait until you meet Nintendo fans who enjoy getting ripped off by that company and sold consoles that become obsolete within a few years.

        That's the problem with console gaming. You end up spending all this money on a console that is only going to be replaced with the next generation consoles within a few years. People who bought a PS3, went on to get a PS4 and now waiting on a PS5. Nintendo had the Wii U and then abandoned it and the 3DS handheld console for the Switch. I'll defend PC gaming, cause you don't have to buy a new PC every few years, as long as you take care of it.

        • Chapo0114 [comrade/them, he/him]
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          4 years ago

          eh...I'd say with how long the XBone and PS4 lasted you'd be hard pressed to have a mid-tier computer last you from the beginning of that generation to still playing new games in the next. Like, my PC struggles with modern games and its ~5 years old.

  • Balkinbalkans [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It's not gamers in and of themselves that are the problem. It's the way corporations are able to package and sell personalities to their consumers wholesale. Look at the adult Disney freaks or the Star Wars horde or the Marvel drones. It's branding as identity.

    If people got half as heated about the concentration camps at our borders as they do about Marvel vs DC or Sony vs Microsoft or what Hogwarts house they fit into, then we might not be living in such a hellscape.

    But it's easier to paint over the rough patches of reality with the shiny new piece of plastic or mass media.

    I've spent a lot of time thinking about the fact that my taxes go toward the missiles the Pentagon uses to blow up schools and hospitals abroad. The evil of America is inescapable. I try to do my part, but I'm really just another cog in this machine. It's an ugly, sobering thought, and most Americans don't want to think that hard. Not when the new game consoles are coming out.

    • CatherineTheSoSo [any]
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      4 years ago

      I don't think it's that simple. Obviously companies want to control and shape those identities but they can do it only to an extent. I'm sure most publishers would prefer that their fans were woke, so they didn't have to navigate the contradictions between expectations of modern woke corporate culture and reactionary parts of their fanbase.

      I feel like reactionary nature of the Gamer identity has more to do that it was originally made up of white middle class nerdy dudes, a group by it's nature drawn to the right.

      • Mog_Pharou [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I feel like reactionary nature of the Gamer identity has more to do that it was originally made up of white middle class nerdy dudes, a group by it’s nature drawn to the right.

        Plus a heavy dose of capitalist alienation. If those gamers weren't being failed by our system so hard they would probably be your typical neoliberal techbro dipshits. Its that white middle class ingrained idea that they deserve better because they are part of the in group, but then getting their legs cut out from under them by the material realities of our system, and then the resulting social fallout that keeps them insular and unable to pursue relationships, reinforcing the alienation and creating a death spiral to reactionary gamer scum.

      • Balkinbalkans [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        That is a good point. "Heated gamer moment" was coined for how often these white guys will resort to slurs when they start losing at their precious online shooter.

        Might be a little of column A, a little of column B

  • JeanPaulBlartre [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This but also for people who unironically call themselves "memers" and who talk about "meme culture" on a weird fucking meta level

  • pisspissass [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    ban home video game consoles. ban PC gaming, PCs are for looking at funny videos and reading Wikipedia. government funded arcades everywhere. oh you want to game? time to go outside and be social, with your buddies, fuckboy. Gamer mindset instantly defeated