Everyone's always talking about PSL, SRA, DSA, RR, CPUSA, and I'm just over here like "I just wanna grill for god sake!"

There's a million little random leftist organizations with slightly different goals and ideologies, but which one should someone looking to, in the words of Father Matt, 'log the fuck off' go to? Which ones are crank warehouses? Which are honeypots? Which are full of libs?

Bitch and complain about your least favorite orgs and shill for your favorites here. Reply to others telling them that their org is full of libs and FBI agents. Etc.

EDIT: also anyone with a specific recommendation in the Quad Cities area in Iowa/Illinois definitely drop me a line

  • PhaseFour [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    On the tendency of PSL and WWP, and on WWP specifically: https://struggle-sessions.com/2019/02/28/marcyism-is-crypto-fascism/

    This article is dogshit lol

    China also recently instituted a “social credit score” system which uses various rule-following factors to grade a person’s behavior. While organizing society itself is not the root of the problem, what makes this fascist is that having a higher social credit score gives people access to capitalist rewards.

    Spreading literal CIA myths while pretending to be "anti-imperialist" cool

    In 2018 WWP sent official greetings of “solidarity” to Kim Jong Un, claiming the DPRK was based upon “socialist planning”. [7] The DPRK is one of the best examples of corporativism, since most business owners pass their inheritance off to their sons. Current leader Kim Jong Un is the son of Kim Jong-il, who was the son of Kim Il-sung. In a socialist state leadership would be determined not by bloodline but by class struggle. Class struggle does indeed exist in the DPRK but the Kims are on the side of the ruling class.

    Holy shit lol this is so bad.

    • joshieecs [he/him,any]
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      4 years ago

      Seems like it's written by a boomer leftist. I don't think organizing and struggles that happened before 2015 are really relevant anymore, since literally everyone is online now. No one has to wait for a newsletter or public-access radio show, all communication is instant, global, free, and optionally multimedia. You can broadcast in realtime to the whole world with your telephone. Whatever worked or failed before 2015 should be taken as historical rather than instructive.

      • PhaseFour [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah he's talking about how his ten-person book club had the real revolutionary line. It's so embarrassing.

        If you're writing hit pieces against other parties with no mass following behind you, you are not a "vanguard."

        • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Isn't 'tribune of the people' one of the fronts Red Guards Austin set up after they "disbanded"? Basically their propaganda arm?

        • joshieecs [he/him,any]
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          4 years ago

          Yes! But that is virtually every serious boomer leftist. Because only the kind of person who would publish 10,000-word screed against the People's Front of Judea would join the Judean People's Front in the first place. [edit: Either that or feds.]

          I feel this way of any talk about Michael Harrington or "Harringtonism" and the DSA. I couldn't care less. Their national membership was down to few thousand boomers prior to 2016. From 2017-2020 it's grown to over 70,000, mostly under-40. Whatever they were through the '80s and '90s, they might as well be a brand new org at this point.

          • PhaseFour [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I agree. I have a lot of criticisms with the DSA. None of them involve "Harringtonism" lmao

            • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Most people in DSA probably don't know anything about DSA.

              • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Most people in the DSA just changed their monthly Bernie donation to paying DSA dues.

                My city's DSA claims 500 dues-paying members, but they no more than 80 active members. Maybe 20 of them know the state of DSA internal politics, maybe.

          • the_river_cass [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            From 2017-2020 it’s grown to over 70,000, mostly under-40.

            take these numbers with a giant grain of salt. 70k is the number of people who have paid dues once within the last two years (if even that is true any longer). the active membership is and has been shrinking from its peak in 2018.