According to Billet themselves, they heard nothing about compensation or payback until about 3 hours after the original GN video went live.. Which Billet hadnt even replied to before Linus made his post saying they've already made the deal on compensation.

  • OtakuAltair@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    ...Yeah that's enough.

    Blatantly, and knowingly, lying (let's not pretend that wasn't the intention) about his compensation to billet is too much. No excuses for that.

    • 4am@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      You know what really sucks? Owning their stuff. I got the screwdriver (it’s pretty nice). I’m drinking from one of the water bottles right now (it’s also pretty nice).

      How am I supposed to go on using that shit? I can’t do it in front of anyone who knows. “Oh you like that LTT stuff? You know what they did right?”

      All that goodwill flushed because of ego. All that cost, sunk. And the worst part is that this discourages me from buying merch from anyone else again, lest I get burned again someday when it comes out they too are the opposite of the image they portray for money.

      I guess there truly is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

      • MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        I've been eyeing their screwdriver for a while, but I don't want to give Linus my money after seeing this... Wanna sell it to me? I don't care if it has any minor damage from regular use.

        Edit: After the whole Madison thing, it leaves a really bad taste in my mouth... Nevermind the screwdriver, I'll just buy a megapro or something...

  • net00@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Money and fame went to linus' head, didn't think it would happen considering they preach to be transparent but here it is.

    If only that bald guy at LTT would have kept his mouth shut about how their testing was better than GN/Hardware Unboxed, all this drama wouldn't have blown up on ltt's face LMFAO

  • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 year ago

    I've enjoyed LTT for a long time. The quality definitely went down, which I had chalked up to growing pains.

    But this is different. This is an absolute loss of trust from me, especially the response Linus posted. What a shame.

    GN has another subscriber, though.

  • Clav64@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    If now was a time to bring in a full time CEO and relegate Linus into "creative director", or whatever title he wants to give himself, now is that time.

    GN has simply pulled back the curtain to show another corporation who put their bottom line before their viewers. And his response only shows this even further.

    Truly disappointed by the whole debacle.

    • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      He already did step down as CEO. Which is funny, because there's a clip of him from the GN video complaining about the lack of time to make content... my friend, you were the one who created this working environment.

  • Vlyn@lemmy.zip
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    1 year ago

    The quality was already going down, but now I'm unsubbed and I'll never click on a LTT video again. Sorry, but this behavior is just unacceptable.

    "We didn't sell it, we auctioned it", Jesus H. fucking Christ.

    • Ryumast3r@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      GN also literally said "auction" not "sold" in his first video, so Linus's response was doubly stupid.

      • Vlyn@lemmy.zip
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        1 year ago

        It doesn't even matter. An auction is selling too, same thing. If I put my stuff on eBay and someone buys it I don't say I "auctioned it off", I say "I sold it to some guy on eBay". It's just fixed price vs a bidding, in the end a price gets reached and a transaction occurs.

        Linus can't seem to take the L and just digs the grave deeper. Unfortunately at this point LTT is too big to fail, but I hope it puts a dent in their numbers and makes them eat some humble pie. Maybe they can fix their internal issues then.

        • Ryumast3r@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          I mean I completely agree with you in that the semantic bullshit is bullshit, my point was that Linus wasn't even correct in his attempt at BS because GN didn't use the word "sold". GN used the same word that Linus is attempting to say is totally different.

      • phillaholic@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        He admits he doesn’t watch videos but instead reads the comments. Commenters often oversimplify things like this.

      • Clav64@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        I'm going to borrow things "to try" from my friends house, say they sucked, and then sell them on eBay.

        I'll just say I auctioned them.

        GOT EM.

  • Skimmer@lemmy.zip
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    1 year ago

    So incredibly disappointing, I thought Linus was smart, but instead of just owning up to his mistakes and making a proper apology, he just doubled down and dug his own grave even further. If he had just apologized and explained how he would do better and make things right, and how he would prevent these mistakes from happening again, I'm sure a lot of people would've gave him another chance, but he really showed him and his company's true colors.

    This is very sad to see, I was definitely a fan of LTT and enjoyed their videos, I watched and supported them for years, but now I'll no longer be watching or trusting them after this. Its heartbreaking.

      • Skimmer@lemmy.zip
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        1 year ago

        I've only seen clips of it here and there, never fully watched or listened, but definitely seems pretty bad based on what I'm hearing...

        Too bad he's like this, honestly the guy's definitely talented and makes good content (if he actually puts the work and proper time in), but seems he's just way too arrogant to admit when he's wrong. I just expected more honestly, just sad to see after being a viewer for this long, and always getting the impression that he was transparent and more down to earth, which now its evident the opposite is true.

    • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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      1 year ago

      The apparent transparency was something that stood out to me as a major respectable plus of the channel. These actions and responses are not at all in line with my understanding of the channel, and I'm mostly just sad. If I dont trust the content, I won't watch. I just wish Linus in particular had stepped back to realize what he was throwing away.

    • viking@infosec.pub
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      1 year ago

      With the DeArrow browser plugin it's possible to identify the 1 in 12 videos that's not shitty clickbait and worth checking out.

      Last one I watched was something about plugging as many USB devices in as possible. That was fun. Most of the rest sucks these days.

  • salton@reddthat.com
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    1 year ago

    I may just be emotionally distanced enough from the channel to feel this way but I feel like this just isn't that big of a deal. At worst everything seems like negligence and/or incompetence and I don't see his main audience caring unless they already have a few bones to pick with Linus personally like a lot of people in these comments seem to.

    • phillaholic@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      The cover up is worse than the crime. Being wrong like that is bad, but it’s fixable and understandable the way the company is growing. Selling the prototype is a huge deal, both ethically and for future collaborations. But his statement after the fact stopped me from re-subbing to Floatplane. The response pissed me off.

  • Potatofish@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Unsubscribe from both and watch the may alternatives, or sit here and whine about it? Which team are you on? Pathetic.