haha train go brrrrrr

  • unperson [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    A 70,000-kilometer network would have to extend deep into the backwoods, to cities like Kashgar in Xinjiang and Shigatse in Tibet. Already, too much spending has gone on serving areas where the population is too small and low-income to make high-speed rail viable.

    NOOOOOO you can't give opportunities and technology to the Uyghurs and Tibetans!!!! They're too low-income!!!

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      If you teach them useful skills and literacy they'll be much harder for the CIA to radicalize into domestic terror cells 😭

  • ARVSPEX [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Already, too much spending has gone on serving areas where the population is too small and low-income to make high-speed rail viable.

    Maybe building better transport infrastructure so the area is not as isolated would help? Crazy thought, I know.

    • quartz [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, then they start complaining about not emptying out the peasant-lands and pouring into singular megacities. Like there's no fucking history in China relating to the rural peasantry. Like there wasn't a whole fucking revolution partially relating to farming collectivization and stringing up landlords.

      Like there's not a god dang sickle intertwined with the hammer. Fucking myopic.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Sounds like someone hasn't read their BASIC ECONOMICS!

      Supply line go up, demand line go down. You can't explain that.

    • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Maybe building better transport infrastructure so the area is not as isolated would help? Crazy thought, I know.

      Nah, that's not really the problem. The problem is that good public transport is in opposition to the profit motive that privatization and capitalism enforce. You will always have population centers that bring you a lot of revenue, and a lot of small places that have few means of transportations and small population (not necessary poor even), that will only incur costs.

  • regul [any]
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    4 years ago

    This is literally what the US did to prop up its own economy, but we did it with stupid fucking roads and demolished half of our cities to do it.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    they also said back in 2006 or some shit that due to mountainous terrain the railway would be impossible. they said connecting xinjiang was an unprofitable idea. and now theyre doing it while also complaining that china does nothing for those regions

    lmao

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      When China built the railway line into Tibet, libs whined that it was all part of a vast conspiracy to flood Tibet with Han Chinese.

      Even today, Tibet's population is still 90%+ ethnic Tibetan.

      Not a peep from those libs.

      • kristina [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        sounds like the rhetoric i hear about trains in the US. oh no, if we build trains to the cities, BLACK PEOPLE WILL BE NEAR ME

  • kristina [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Offsetting the roughly one billion metric tons of emissions that will be involved in building out the network to 70,000 kilometers will only happen to the extent that trains displace planes and road vehicles — and that process, too, is likely to be slower on lower-density lines.

    lmao so we're supposed to just build billions of cars instead? id prefer to just take a train to work or to ride a bike to cover the last mile. its like theyre saying 'china must live in caves while we do emissions pls'

    edit: did some research.

    the number of cars produced in 2016 was 70 million. average car produces 15.25 tons of c02 on production line. therefore, a single year of car production is a bit over 1 billion tons of c02. lets not forget that cars produce a ton of c02 after the fact and the fact that we need to constantly be building new ones. trains are way better. if these lines is able to cut out cars by even half it will pay for itself in two years in c02 terms. well worth it.

  • glk [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    That will ensure the population is more thinly spread across a larger number of sub-scale cities, weakening the productivity benefits that would accrue from more aggressive urbanization.

    Guaranteed that the productivity benefits they talk about here are real-estate rents.

  • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Even if we accept the incredibly stupid profitable = efficient framing, shouldn't all the vampire investors at Bloomberg understand the concept of planning ahead and acquiring things you think will be valuable in the future?

  • CompactTie34 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    NOO BYUE OURR BOUiNG PLanE PLS 😰 😫 train=nomoney=bad=communism!!!!1!

  • Sushi_Desires
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    4 years ago

    Curious, the article claims "Corrected August 18, 2020, 1:01 AM EDT" yet it is still posted?