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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    When one of them joins a party, shows up to meeting and actually takes part in party activities I'll agree with him. They're just online propagandists making the equivalent of modern day leaflets chill the fuck out dude. Organising actual events, action, movements of people in the streets, these things have SIGNIFICANTLY greater value. Not that their value in normalising certain things off the streets isn't good and introducing concepts to people, but actually ORGANISING is a requirement of fucking achieving literally anything.

    Ask him which protest or strike they organised via youtube. Ask him how they intend to actually mobilise people for literally any revolutionary outcome electoral or otherwise via youtube.

    They're not. Because they're just modern day leaflet makers. The organisers are the bread and butter of the movement, all of those come from the parties and all the organising involves multiple groups involved including MLs.

    You ain't shutting down all the ports with a youtube channel or a twitter.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Only the online """anarchists""". We really should be drawing a distinction between anarchists that actually do anything and """anarchists""" of the online variety. They're all larp. Libs wearing leftist outfits to virtue signal while doing nothing whatsoever to take part.

        It's liberal woke culture translated leftwards. A synthetic left in the same way liberal wokeness was a synthetic support of minorities and oppressed. Anarchists that actually leave their fucking houses do organising too.

        (I misclicked and deleted the last message so I apologise for double-sending this, we need an "are you sure?" on delete buttons.)

        • unperson [he/him]
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          4 years ago

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        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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          4 years ago

          you good fam. The critical problem that leftist online discourse suffers from is that it's a chamber of theory without practice. It is the unscientific application of Socialist ideology in the fact that it lacks an impact upon the material world and inhibits the experimentation of theories to sort through those that work and those that belong to the bin. As commonly known with online discourse in general, it additionally encourages the creation of an echochamber, trapping those within to suffocate themselves into irrelevance as their theories and opinions drift further away from reality.

          The Anarchist in reality learns from experience that degrees of organization, centralization, and specialization are critically necessary to deliver aid to the working class. And likewise, The Communist in reality learns from experience that degrees of decentralization are necessary as well as the situation requires and the conditions change.

          This is the expression of tactical flexibility for strategic purposes. It is a concept that everyone understands and everyone, except dogmatists who wish to fail, undertakes to varying degrees.

          You might find this an interesting read as well

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            I was an anarchist for decades. You don't really need to explain anarchists to me while ignoring every point I actually made that the people behaving this way in these spaces are not actually doing anything. Pretending they actually do anything is simply denying reality.