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  • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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    Ollie

    Isn’t he constantly telling people to read Lenin? Doubt he’s an “ML” but he seems to flirt with being an “tankie”.

    • Abraxiel
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      How do you flirt with being a tankie without being an ML?

      • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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        Very carefully.

        Idk there’s non-ML “tankies”. There are those guys who call themselves “Leninists” cuz they love Lenin but have mixed feelings on Stalin. And Marxists who think the USSR was a mixed bag. And of course Maoists.

      • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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        Philosophy Tube

        He has some bad takes but I’d honestly say I find him more likable than most of the other but “BreadTubers”. Especially Vaush but that ain’t saying much.

        • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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          I liked when it was just him talking philosophy in front of a bookcase and he never made the episodes about himself.

        • CoralMarks [he/him]
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          Ah okay, I have seen that channel name floating around. Thanks!

      • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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        Yeah and then says he’s “outdated” and instead suggests some sociology book about Americans perception of the class system.

        I don’t hate her quite as much as some people here but she is really a fucking lib and a half.

          • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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            Yeah I’m not trans or in a close relationship with any trans person so I really can’t speak on those issues. But it’s evident even to me she had a big ass ego and likes talking about shit she really doesn’t know a ton about.

            Like the lighting tho.

        • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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          Also making a whole video on men and not mentioning once labor alienation under capitalism. I cant see any sort of legit marxist leaving that out because its extremely important and highly relevant to the topic. How tf you talk about men's issues and leave out how 90% of them are caused by capitalism treating them like highly disposable machines that shouldn't think or feel or enjoy things, and how wage labor makes us all extremely fucking unhappy because we're completely alienated from it. Instead her answer for how to fix toxic masculinity was literally "idk ummm go check out this reddit sub that doesn't have any systemic answers but is supportive for individuals who want to change" which is something, but not really the "I've actually read theory" response.

  • MonarchLabsOne [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Brace Belden is a Leninist and he hosts the only non-peodphile anti-pedophile podcast.

    • 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g [they/them]
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      "But I need talkie pictures to convey information to me"

      Now I, on the other hand, get my theory from podcasts.

  • anonymous_ascendent [none/use name]
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    All these nobodies will not even be footnotes in the history books. The first major American ML figure will most assuredly be a central figure

    • kristina [she/her]
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      the psl near me is a book club that posts shade towards the dsa while doing nothing themselves lol

      meanwhile, in czechia, the chad communist party took over the police in my family's town

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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      Thats what happens when you make a party without an agreed-upon mass line. You get a smorgasbord of ideologies that incoherently clash with each other and prevent the party from doing anything beyond spontaneous actions. They do good, but they mistake of believing that a popular front is a good enough replacement for an organized party.

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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          There's a difference between a degree of decentralization, and having a party of leftists of completely differing ideological opinions suffering from the lack of ability to agree on anything beyond "America bad" It would be fine if it was an alliance of parties in tactical agreement to uphold a united front against america, cooperate when their goals align, and avoid stepping on each other toes when goals don't align. But creating another big-tent of ideology party creates the conditions for said party to sheer itself asunder as various chapters and sects develop an independant ideological character that can run in a differing or counter-direction of what the central party is moving towards.

  • BaptizedNRG [he/him]
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    Unpopular opinion, but if you aren't educating, agitating, or organizing among the working class, then you aren't relevant. If you're not helping build socialism, your tendency is at best an opinion; at worst, an aesthetic.

      • BaptizedNRG [he/him]
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        It's all good, comrade: https://act.dsausa.org/donate/membership2020?akid=s440..b-8xQA

    • ProfessionalSlacker
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      4 years ago

      I want to develop a cooperative vertical farm that uses renewable energy, but I dont even know where to start and my crippling social anxiety/depression keeps me from getting anywhere.

      • BaptizedNRG [he/him]
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        In that case I'd start with something smaller, or chunk that huge project into one step at a time. I don't know what your illness is like. Mine may not be as bad.

        • ProfessionalSlacker
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          Yeah I'm trying. Gonna do some research on how those sort of things work, try to grow some stuff myself in my closet if I can, maybe try to sell it at a farmers market or something. I just hate how all the real resources for stuff like this requires college, something that I cant do with a full time job and would rack up insane student loan debt.

          • BaptizedNRG [he/him]
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            Yeah the gatekeeping of access to capital is one of the ways capitalism perpetuates. It sucks.

    • theChariot [any]
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      Honestly this is just true in general. All tendencies are just aesthetics in the current reality.

      • BaptizedNRG [he/him]
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        I'd say right now, the actions leftists take are vaguely similar, but we're starting to see more divergence in strategy as the movement grows. The divergence only very roughly parallels to historical tendencies though, so I see where you're coming from.

    • quartz [she/her]
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    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      "Red fascist" is what anarchists and libs call states like the USSR, DPRK, and PRC, despite knowing nothing in detail about any of them or Nazi Germany and its ideology.

    • AnarchoLeninist [he/him]
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      A red fascist is someone that actually helps people instead of saying they are going to help people

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      remember when we were all naive babby leftists and thrilled at having greater visibility and influence on YouTube? Yeah now its embarrassing

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    When one of them joins a party, shows up to meeting and actually takes part in party activities I'll agree with him. They're just online propagandists making the equivalent of modern day leaflets chill the fuck out dude. Organising actual events, action, movements of people in the streets, these things have SIGNIFICANTLY greater value. Not that their value in normalising certain things off the streets isn't good and introducing concepts to people, but actually ORGANISING is a requirement of fucking achieving literally anything.

    Ask him which protest or strike they organised via youtube. Ask him how they intend to actually mobilise people for literally any revolutionary outcome electoral or otherwise via youtube.

    They're not. Because they're just modern day leaflet makers. The organisers are the bread and butter of the movement, all of those come from the parties and all the organising involves multiple groups involved including MLs.

    You ain't shutting down all the ports with a youtube channel or a twitter.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        Only the online """anarchists""". We really should be drawing a distinction between anarchists that actually do anything and """anarchists""" of the online variety. They're all larp. Libs wearing leftist outfits to virtue signal while doing nothing whatsoever to take part.

        It's liberal woke culture translated leftwards. A synthetic left in the same way liberal wokeness was a synthetic support of minorities and oppressed. Anarchists that actually leave their fucking houses do organising too.

        (I misclicked and deleted the last message so I apologise for double-sending this, we need an "are you sure?" on delete buttons.)

        • unperson [he/him]
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          (You can undelete messages if you click the trash can again)

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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          you good fam. The critical problem that leftist online discourse suffers from is that it's a chamber of theory without practice. It is the unscientific application of Socialist ideology in the fact that it lacks an impact upon the material world and inhibits the experimentation of theories to sort through those that work and those that belong to the bin. As commonly known with online discourse in general, it additionally encourages the creation of an echochamber, trapping those within to suffocate themselves into irrelevance as their theories and opinions drift further away from reality.

          The Anarchist in reality learns from experience that degrees of organization, centralization, and specialization are critically necessary to deliver aid to the working class. And likewise, The Communist in reality learns from experience that degrees of decentralization are necessary as well as the situation requires and the conditions change.

          This is the expression of tactical flexibility for strategic purposes. It is a concept that everyone understands and everyone, except dogmatists who wish to fail, undertakes to varying degrees.

          You might find this an interesting read as well

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            I was an anarchist for decades. You don't really need to explain anarchists to me while ignoring every point I actually made that the people behaving this way in these spaces are not actually doing anything. Pretending they actually do anything is simply denying reality.

  • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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    all those youtubers do is make content for consumption, they are just part of the system and wont achive any change.