Like? Is anyone who starts a war a “war criminal” now?

If it’s because Russia’s killed civilians (whether intentionally or just because they didn’t care enough in pursuit of their military objectives), then, like, isn’t basically every Western leader + Biden a “war criminal”? How would you ever create a standard that could include him but not others?

And if they are all “war criminals” then why would you support one over the other? I don’t get this conversation.

And even if you had to, like, in what world would it make sense to think that Putin is worse than Netanyahu or the Western leaders who arm and support him?

  • StalinStan [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    The allies were absolutely unjust. They were defending the genocidal British empire. Then they were doing colonialism in west, middle, and east Asia. West Asia here being the backwater European peninsula where the allies took land from displaced jews and gave it to German people. They were a rogue faction using weapons of mass destruction to ensure favorable trade positions post war.

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        ....and Chinese communists, the Chinese Nationalists, the precursors to the NVA and Vietcong, Mexico, the Korean resistance, the Filipino resistance, Brazil, Ethiopia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Haiti, etc.

        It's a blind spot in people's understanding of WWII. The Allies was more than just France, the US, UK, and USSR. It included dozens of countries across the world, especially in Asia where the war started.

    • regul [any]
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      2 months ago

      Killing Nazis is an unalloyed good.

        • vovchik_ilich [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          First we fought a war against them, which was good given the lack of alternatives to prevent genocide in greater areas, then we forgave everything and kept those people in power, which was horrible.

          • StalinStan [none/use name]
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            2 months ago

            You forgot about us supporting them before that. The big nazi rally in new York. All the US businesses getting nice contracts with them. Honestly if it wasn't for Japan I really feel like we might not have really gotten in the war.

            • vovchik_ilich [he/him]
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              2 months ago

              Well, I wasn't talking exclusively about the US, but sure, I get your point.