It is completely inexcusable that people in STEM fields are so reactionary, considering how capitalism utterly destroys science.

If universities were actually "left wing indoctrination factories" like the right thinks they are, every STEM grad would be taught, for example, what Kropotkin had to say about innovation.

  • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
    4·
    4 years ago

    no. i didnt.

    You do realise that producing solar panels and wind turbines creates orders of magnitude more toxic waste than a nuclear power plant, right? Before involving any batteries.

    see that part where you brought it up?

    also, good second strawman there on me saying anything about recycling plastics. 🙄

    • unperson [he/him]
      1·
      4 years ago

      Oh, okay. What is your preferred alternative to nuclear?

      Edit: or to non plastic materials for a massive wind turbine, I suppose.

        • unperson [he/him]
          1·
          4 years ago

          I was hoping they'd reply before I went to sleep 😕

          • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
            3·
            4 years ago

            the answer is: its irrelevant.

            first off, not my job to solve the issues of wind or solar tech on a fucking internet forum.

            secondly and more importantly, the point is that nuclear waste is bad not that its the worst possible thing int he world ever.

            lets assume only coal power existed. that was the only power source. would you argue we should use it, even knowing all the obvious issues with coal?

            nuclear waste is bad, has had a detrimental effect on my life and the lives of people i know, ergo i do not support nuclear fission energies. its not that fucking hard to understand.

            edit: ohhh no i stepped away for a whole hour to deal with real life shit, how terrible, i must have been owned so hard kristina. fuck off

            • unperson [he/him]
              1·
              4 years ago

              lets assume only coal power existed. that was the only power source. would you argue we should use it, even knowing all the obvious issues with coal?

              Of course. No electricity causes endlessly more suffering than the pollution of coal power plants. Would you really prefer to return to feudalism in your hypothetical situation?

              If so, you're a by-the-book reactionary.

                • unperson [he/him]
                  1·
                  4 years ago

                  It's not, but industry requires artificial power. And industry is Good. And Capitalism and Socialism require industry. They are even defined by machine industry. Read Marx.

                  • kristina [she/her]
                    2·
                    4 years ago

                    it aint worth the time arguing with a nutjob. if it were real life, just physically force them out of the room is my opinion. i have a huge disdain for them if you cant tell

                  • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
                    2·
                    4 years ago

                    industry good therefor i cant even imagine a world in which we live without power but also embrace communism, trying to do so means youve never read a book.

                    im sure the anprims love you at parties.