I mean yeah i dont agree with that part at all. Electoralism is blatantly a dead end. See, we have common ground. I was less defending him and more attacking your ML= successful socialist revolution.
Ok and the only successful revolutions in history have been Marxist parties using Democratic Centralism... so if electoralism isn’t valid and we have to have a revolution....
You are so fucking close but your brain is still poisoned with rightwing lies about AES states
Look, until you square away things like the law of value and commodity production still being in operation of "actually existing socialist states" then im not on board with your idea of "socialism" aka state capitalism. DAE leftcom infantile. Get a new response. Lenin was talking about Dutch-German leftcoms. Wasnt talking about Bordiga.
Ultra bullshit. There will be markets and commodities as long as there are capitalists and imperialists. Only one the majority of the world has gone socialist can the transition to higher stage communism begin.
The conditions of the USSR and PRC have not been adequate to move to communism. FFS read Lenin
Yes, which has not yet occurred so your whining about Stalin not abolishing the commodity form are detached from reality and are just utopian ramblings of wreckers and ultras
Damn glad the western dengoid has arrived. Read some theory. I love when Deng busted the communes and turned all the peasants into Nike shoe slaves! That was epic socialism! Get real.
imagine thinking the US is going to lead the way with communism. Youre detached from reality if you think any movement will get off the ground in the US. Only way is if the US is continually destabilized and cant meddle in the affairs of other nations for a while. So thank you for telling me you totally know me and my ideas. Chapos dont read theory, its painfully clear.
yeah i agree with your first point. Thats where we have common ground. But CPC raising living standards isnt socialism. It just isnt. Socialism isnt worker enrichment, its the abolition of classes. So i totally understand where youre coming from with the second point. Of course lifting people out of poverty is good, but dont confuse it with socialism/communism.
https://hexbear.net/post/34978/comment/277201
The OP of this thread that you chimed in to defend
I mean yeah i dont agree with that part at all. Electoralism is blatantly a dead end. See, we have common ground. I was less defending him and more attacking your ML= successful socialist revolution.
Ok and the only successful revolutions in history have been Marxist parties using Democratic Centralism... so if electoralism isn’t valid and we have to have a revolution....
You are so fucking close but your brain is still poisoned with rightwing lies about AES states
Marxist revolution =/= Marxist-Leninism. I am a lot farther than you lmao. Please dont preach your ML bullshit at me.
No you aren’t you are stuck in infantile ultraleftism that I was years ago lol. You are in the baby stage still
Marxist revolution = Leninist party and Marxism = Marxism-Leninism
Look, until you square away things like the law of value and commodity production still being in operation of "actually existing socialist states" then im not on board with your idea of "socialism" aka state capitalism. DAE leftcom infantile. Get a new response. Lenin was talking about Dutch-German leftcoms. Wasnt talking about Bordiga.
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This site is apparently ultra/trot? Or just in the “hot takes (read: liberal takes)” thread
Ultra bullshit. There will be markets and commodities as long as there are capitalists and imperialists. Only one the majority of the world has gone socialist can the transition to higher stage communism begin.
The conditions of the USSR and PRC have not been adequate to move to communism. FFS read Lenin
Oh good so you support international socialism. Glad were on the same page.
Yes, which has not yet occurred so your whining about Stalin not abolishing the commodity form are detached from reality and are just utopian ramblings of wreckers and ultras
And you support a dead end into revisionism which inevitably leads into the resurgence of capitalist relations. Miss me with that bullshit.
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Damn glad the western dengoid has arrived. Read some theory. I love when Deng busted the communes and turned all the peasants into Nike shoe slaves! That was epic socialism! Get real.
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imagine thinking the US is going to lead the way with communism. Youre detached from reality if you think any movement will get off the ground in the US. Only way is if the US is continually destabilized and cant meddle in the affairs of other nations for a while. So thank you for telling me you totally know me and my ideas. Chapos dont read theory, its painfully clear.
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yeah i agree with your first point. Thats where we have common ground. But CPC raising living standards isnt socialism. It just isnt. Socialism isnt worker enrichment, its the abolition of classes. So i totally understand where youre coming from with the second point. Of course lifting people out of poverty is good, but dont confuse it with socialism/communism.
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Utopian. Idealist. Infantile. Wrecker. Liberal.
Eat hot shit. Revisionist scum.
Yeah it’s me the revisionist, not the guy who was saying Marxism is obsolete and we need to vote for harm reduction LOL
GET YOUR SHIT SORTED OUT CHILD
where did i say its obsolete? You fucking clown. Jesus christ Western MLs get the wall.
Ugh these MLs are too divisive and LARP too much! That’s why they get the wall!!!!
Name 1 time Leftcoms will ever be the ones holding the guns lol perpetual losing cucks
I support the real communist movement, with hundreds of millions of proletariat and worker states.
You support hot air. Miss me with that bullshit