Everyone has hot takes, let this thread be your safe space to unleash fire on us.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        You can have your own hot take, just don't be an asshole to someone else's hot take in a hot take thread. The purpose of a hot take thread is to get people to air ideas they may not be 100% confident in and have the community sound them out. Snippy replies do nothing but frustrate that purpose; again, real wrecker shit.

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          Oh wow everyone in here has the super original take that actually Marxism is obsolete and we need a new reformist type of socialism! Definitely not the same horseshit we have been hearing from the western chauvinist left for the past 200 years that has made them a joke in the global communist community and never have a single success.

          I’m sorry your civility politics is more important to you than not repeating revisionist tropes over and over ad Infinitum

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            Oh wow everyone in here has the super original take

            If a bunch of people are saying the same thing, maybe you should honestly address that instead of sarcastically dismissing it. If a bunch of people are downbearing you and telling you you're acting like a wrecker, maybe you should take a step back and do some self-crit.

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              A million western succs have made this same argument for 200 years. They have defeated themselves by being continuously useless and wrong and never winning

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                So explain to the people who are broadly on your side why they should agree with you without being a smug asshole about it. Condescendingly pissing people off instead of putting in the effort to get them on board is a hallmark of liberalism, and is a big reason why everyone hates libs.

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                  Respectability tone policing shit

                  There are tons of perfectly polite Marxists, I am not one of them. Some people require bullying and mockery of they will stay stuck in their ways.

                  Succs and ultras that parrot century old utopian tropes are even more outdated than Marxists, and maybe they require sufficient mockery before they realize they are a meme

                  • Sandals [none/use name]
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                    Congrats. Before I thought you might be wrong. Now I think you're wrong and also kind of a dick. Did you get what you wanted?

                  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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                    Respectability tone policing shit

                    The bare minimum standard of "don't be a huge asshole at the drop of a hat to people you ostensibly want to organize with" is not tone policing.

                    No one likes your type of asshole. No one wants to be around your type of asshole. Your type of asshole makes people lose interest and stop showing up. It doesn't matter how right you think you are, because if you can't do the bare minimum of getting along with fellow leftists you're fucking useless.

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                      I don’t consider social democratic distorters to be “fellow leftists”

                      This is the Internet. Grow a thicker skin.