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  • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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    4 years ago

    Have you tried not eating meat and dairy? It's shockingly easy and you really won't miss it.

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        4 years ago

        You can't restore those conditions without flatly ending factory farming.

    • john_browns_beard [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      I've generally avoid meat, so I definitely know it's possible, but I think the problem for most people is that a vegan diet in the USA currently takes a ton of work to plan and maintain (compared to omnivorous at least) and they just don't have the energy or willpower to deal with that.

      Lab meat has to be cheaper and just as high quality as the real thing.

      • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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        4 years ago

        I mean, I thought that, too, until I actually did it. I spend less time cooking, I spend less money on the food I cook, and aside from checking labels on packaged foods the effort is pretty minimal. I look up three recipes Sunday afternoon, multiply the ingredients so I won't have to go out to the store multiple times, and cook in two or three day batches.

        I just don't see how this is more complicated than "dump hundreds of millions of dollars into lab meat" compared to, say, "dump hundreds of millions of dollars into teaching people how to cook".