On big subs, like worldnews.
Like, a lot of people quoting one CDC report on IFR that presented COVID as less dangerous, without actually knowing the difference between CFR and IFR. Despite the fact that the numbers (in the report) are still very fucking high.
I hear more and more people saying that countries overreport deaths, based on some anecdotal evidence (one time a bike crash was reported as a COVID death), which is complete bullshit, of course, easily checked by looking at excess deaths.
Absolutely braindead comparisons to seasonal flu, as if seasonal flu isn't
- less dangerous
- a huge fucking problem and a cause of millions of deaths
Chapos, COVID is the most deadly airborne virus pandemic since spanish flu, and the most deadly virus since HIV/AIDS.
Oh yeah, I say "since HIV/AIDS", but HIV/AIDS pandemic is still happening. Literally millions of people die. We haven't cured it. Who said that we'll cure this one?
Also, you cant really compare coronavirus to HIV, but if we look at annual deaths, then HIV was at its peak at ~1.9 million deaths (in 2005, I think). Compare that to COVID. This is just the first 7-8 months of the pandemic and we already have more than a million deaths! That is, despite the fact that:
- Deaths are seriously underreported (I'm talking 30-50% just in the US. Imagine fucking Brasil. Russia? In Russia its way worse).
- Coronoviruses are seasonal and they peak at winter
- The whole world went into lockdown for months.
Holy shit, I fucking can't.
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Nothing is deadly enough to make people notice without the media though
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I upvoted you because I think it's worth discussing, but your theory doesn't really account for the worldwide reaction. It's not just a US thing. Is the whole world conspiring to defeat Trump?
Yes
(((The whole world)))
I can't tell if you're joking or not.
I agree its "overblown" by libs to own Trump, but it's IFR is at least 0.6%.
WHO says 0.5-1% infection fatality rate and cites a study from Stockholm that had a result of 0.58% for all ages. The study accounted for unreported cases, but not for unreported deaths. They themselves say that the result is conservative.
Sweden, mind you, has some of the best healthcare and healthiest people in the world.
Other New York study (that's cited on worldmeters) accounted for excess deaths and unreported infections had a result of 1.4% IFR.
Case fatality rate of the world is still 2-6%. I don't think it's THAT unnoticeable.
Yeah, 0.6 is what they estimate now. I suspect it might be lower because in March/April, we didn't test many kids/young adults. It's a moot point though. Either way, it's deadlier than the flu, but not deadly enough that you would see bodies piling up on every street if we just let it spread.
You are saying that: its not as deadly as the fucking bubonic plague.
Yeah, we know.
Also, there were bodies "piling up" during peak in March. In Italy and New York afaik
No, there weren't. We built massive surge capacity in several cities that went completely unused.
You suspect the numbers will be lower, but I suspect in the end the numbers will be higher. Why? Because current studies account for unreported infections, but don't account for unreported deaths.
There are other undesirable outcomes besides just "death." For many people even just being sick and missing a week or even just a few days of work can be devastating. And a fatality rate of 0.6% is actually fairly high for an infectious disease. Combine that with covid's INSANELY high virulence rate and you have a recipe for a huge amount of deaths, regardless of those deaths only being a small fraction of total cases.
Take a lap.
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People died in hospitals laying in hallways packed with people waiting for a bed. The bodies were put on freezer trucks and there was mass graves being dug.
This happened in new york city in the summer. It was all over the news and there's still people pretending like that shit didn't just happen
That's just bullshit fear mongering spread by Big Tech, and you all know it. The shear amount of bed-wetting and straight up guilibility the Left has when it comes to Covid is fucking shameful
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youll definitely see the reporting change, yeah, but 200,000+ people, probably closer to 300,000 or more around inaguration is a lot of people :/ its noticeable for most people.
No, it's not. It's pure manipulation of numbers because human brains can't handle thousands on up. 200k is less than 1 in 1500. You don't know 1500 people.
And then 7m is a lot more. We’re all gonna know people heavily affected by this. Sure, the media will sweep it under the rug and it’ll work for some people but it’s already too late.
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