Mostly talking about stuff like breadtubers, chapo, and media personalities like that, I can kind of tell why people like Bernie and Jezza where they're at. Is it the added wealth being a popular media personality gives you, the need to give a consistent product, the need to appeal to a wide breadth of people, and so on?

edit: also props to Brett at RevLeft for continuing to radicalise himself as the show has gone on

  • TossedAccount [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I thought you were talking about Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert for a second, but yeah this also definitely applies to most of the breadtubers and the chapo boys.

      • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I feel like he put a lot of emotional energy into making fun of Trump. He fell for the classic blunder of thinking that all the illegal shit matters to anybody who's not already sold on it being bad. As a result, shit stagnated and the emotional energy didn't pay any dividends. So his act is worse for wear.

    • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I'd say these people kind of count to, although I feel like saying that any of them "radicalised" people is a bit of a stretch

      • LangdonAlger [any]
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        4 years ago

        For those of us who grew up in conservative hell before the internet really took off, this was the only mainstream defiance, or at least questioning of, American hegemony

        • TossedAccount [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I don't think we can understate to those too young to remember just how batshit the mainstream discourse in US politics was from the initial post-9/11 hysteria to around early 2006 when the implications of the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions and the new surveillance/national-security infrastructure started sinking in. Snarky content like the Daily Show and Michael Moore documentaries and fucking Rachel Maddow really were the leftmost political content that reached a broad audience during this period.

          • LangdonAlger [any]
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            4 years ago

            These two David Cross albums were the most radical shit I had heard from anyone and he said it at the height of Bush hysteria. He's pretty whatever now but, holy shit, he went fucking hard against Bush.

            Random scroller, if you haven't listened to It's Not Funny and Shut Up You Fucking Baby, both are masterpieces and deserve your attention

            https://open.spotify.com/album/6nCQTVTV0ddomS5j6zGGHs?si=DpLlXLVkT02z2pbJ_jZxUQ

            https://open.spotify.com/album/2BUTMTp9DkLPVynnylixMm?si=MIsvZ9kPQLa5Wqi5nwm1rw