The moment of the announcement form the court: Golden Dawn is a criminal organization.#GoldenDawnTrial #δεν_ειναι_αθωοι pic.twitter.com/gh74ry3hTp— Dimitris Rapidis (@rapidis) October 7, 2020
Yeah, 10% is pretty high that's why I'm surprised by how many people are celebrating in the streets and how there doesn't seem to be opposing protests or anything. I feel like anti-fasc protests in some other EU countries wouldn't be nearly this big, even in countries where have a decent presence.
how there doesn’t seem to be opposing protests or anything
They're fucking scared, that's why. There was like 15-20k people there, they'd get steamrolled. See the red flags in the photos of the gathering? Yeah, these aren't just flags, they're thick sticks. Imagine a couple hundred Golden Dawn supporters showing up next to tens of thousands of people opposing them, and like a thousand communists with sticks. I don't know how well the cops could protect them in that scenario.
BTW one of the charges against Golden Dawn was illegal gun ownership. But definitely a lot less guns than American fash, gun laws here are quite strict and it's better that way because the police isn't as militarised so you're not as worried that some loon will murder you in protests, and clashes are safer. Honestly I am a little disappointed of the condition of the left recently but yeah, there's enough communists here that it's almost normalised and accepted, plus we're able to gather up thousands of people for important stuff like this thing.
Yeah the gun thing is complicated. If there weren't millions of chuds with arsenals already I wouldn't be as pro-gun. But they will never give them up so we should be armed too.
As for the Greek left, you guys literally have the KKE in Parliament even if it's only a handful of members. You have more Communists in your Parliament than we have even socdems in Congress lmao. Plus PAME has like 850,000 members in a country of 11mil. Proportionally that would be like us in Amerikkka having 25mil people in a Communist trade union federation lmao. Your anarchists are 10,000x cooler than ours too.
The KKE is pretty bad for a number of reasons I won't get into now. I am glad they're in the parliament for mainly historical reasons and, you know, having a communist presence but I am afraid they may not stay in parliament for many more years. Again, I don't support them at all but I am glad they're at least there. It would be a sad day if they fell below 3%, unless we managed to get together something better, which we are failing to do right now and there's a bunch of good leftists just sitting outside the parliament and failing to motivate people due to a complete lack of unity, and a recent ideological dominance of the right, in great part due to Syriza's joke of a government. These are the reasons I am kind of disappointed of the state of the left, and it's very hard to think of how we can fix it. Oh, also because Varoufakis is an individualist bougie dick who decided to throw together his own party which is not connected to, like, anyone and anything, then scooped up a bunch of left leaning voters who were mostly desperate to vote for something that is neither Syriza nor KKE mainly due to name recognition, and then barely managed to get into the parliament so that he can say dumb quasi-reactionary nonsense and stroke his ego while rarely participating in any protests and actual stuff happening in the streets. I am organized but we're part of a party that clearly has no future and I just have no idea how we can, like, kill it and unite with other orgs to create something better. It seems like no one is willing to do that. I guess at least we are trying more than the others to achieve that but that's not good enough.
Also Greeks as a whole have been rather oppressed by other nations/people before. While that doesn't stop them from being racist/xenophobic, (trust me I know I'm a Greek Gypsy), it will give some of the more average citizens more of a stop before succumbing to Nazi ideas. In my opinion.
Yeah, 10% is pretty high that's why I'm surprised by how many people are celebrating in the streets and how there doesn't seem to be opposing protests or anything. I feel like anti-fasc protests in some other EU countries wouldn't be nearly this big, even in countries where have a decent presence.
They're fucking scared, that's why. There was like 15-20k people there, they'd get steamrolled. See the red flags in the photos of the gathering? Yeah, these aren't just flags, they're thick sticks. Imagine a couple hundred Golden Dawn supporters showing up next to tens of thousands of people opposing them, and like a thousand communists with sticks. I don't know how well the cops could protect them in that scenario.
Plus unlike our fascists, they can't walk around the street carrying AR-15s . I'm sure they have guns but nothing like our chuds.
Greece has a very big Communist movement and a very big Anarchist scene. Greek antifa is based as fuck and doesn't take shit.
BTW one of the charges against Golden Dawn was illegal gun ownership. But definitely a lot less guns than American fash, gun laws here are quite strict and it's better that way because the police isn't as militarised so you're not as worried that some loon will murder you in protests, and clashes are safer. Honestly I am a little disappointed of the condition of the left recently but yeah, there's enough communists here that it's almost normalised and accepted, plus we're able to gather up thousands of people for important stuff like this thing.
Yeah the gun thing is complicated. If there weren't millions of chuds with arsenals already I wouldn't be as pro-gun. But they will never give them up so we should be armed too.
As for the Greek left, you guys literally have the KKE in Parliament even if it's only a handful of members. You have more Communists in your Parliament than we have even socdems in Congress lmao. Plus PAME has like 850,000 members in a country of 11mil. Proportionally that would be like us in Amerikkka having 25mil people in a Communist trade union federation lmao. Your anarchists are 10,000x cooler than ours too.
The KKE is pretty bad for a number of reasons I won't get into now. I am glad they're in the parliament for mainly historical reasons and, you know, having a communist presence but I am afraid they may not stay in parliament for many more years. Again, I don't support them at all but I am glad they're at least there. It would be a sad day if they fell below 3%, unless we managed to get together something better, which we are failing to do right now and there's a bunch of good leftists just sitting outside the parliament and failing to motivate people due to a complete lack of unity, and a recent ideological dominance of the right, in great part due to Syriza's joke of a government. These are the reasons I am kind of disappointed of the state of the left, and it's very hard to think of how we can fix it. Oh, also because Varoufakis is an individualist bougie dick who decided to throw together his own party which is not connected to, like, anyone and anything, then scooped up a bunch of left leaning voters who were mostly desperate to vote for something that is neither Syriza nor KKE mainly due to name recognition, and then barely managed to get into the parliament so that he can say dumb quasi-reactionary nonsense and stroke his ego while rarely participating in any protests and actual stuff happening in the streets. I am organized but we're part of a party that clearly has no future and I just have no idea how we can, like, kill it and unite with other orgs to create something better. It seems like no one is willing to do that. I guess at least we are trying more than the others to achieve that but that's not good enough.
Also Greeks as a whole have been rather oppressed by other nations/people before. While that doesn't stop them from being racist/xenophobic, (trust me I know I'm a Greek Gypsy), it will give some of the more average citizens more of a stop before succumbing to Nazi ideas. In my opinion.
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