I first saw this today after listening to the podcast. I am still somewhat suffering just from the utter horror of this video, so please bear in mind this is not something to watch casually. I still need to process how to respond, other than holy fuck, the US military is pure evil

  • Sankara [he/him,any]
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    4 years ago

    My family are Iraqi, both my parents were born in Baghdad. I love you all comrades, but you can't possibly understand the rage that I have within me, and the pure hatred that I have for the state institutions of this country. Every time I remember what these pieces of shit did to Iraq, a country that I could never visit, I get filled with rage more and more. Tell me, how do the people of Iraq not turn into "terrorists" when their friends and family get pulvarised on their streets? Fuck the US and fuck every solider that voluteered for this farce

  • TossedAccount [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    No fucking way am I watching this. If you're already struggling with mental health like I am you probably shouldn't, unless you're actually somehow skeptical that the US military would let their personnel do something so horrible to unarmed civilians (in which case you're probably a liberal, welcome to hell chapochat).

    • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      I think its important for people who have the strength to witness it to watch it, and realize that there are people in the seats of these helicopters and to hear them rabidly foaming at the mouth to kill anything that moves, wielding absurd weapons made for some world-ending mass war scenario but is instead sent out to murder small groups of people cautiously trying to navigate a city under siege. America is the original fascist country, from all the way back to its days as a colony. This video has the power to turn a supporter of the military into an opponent, or at the very least less supportive.

      • TossedAccount [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Supporters of the military should watch the video and come away mentally scarred. My advice was meant for people already correctly critical of US imperialism.

        • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Even those already critical need to be aware of the scale and level of organization of brutality we are up against, the sheer love of killing that the US military has become so efficient at indoctrinating and recruiting with.

      • Gamer_time [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Lol wtf the founder of the EU was an over luitenant of the fuckin Whermacht? Looks like the world was all just a big parody of itself from the start lmao

          • Gamer_time [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah, I have heard about paperclip before, and shit like how Josef Mengele survived until the 70's. It's so fucked, especially since I live in a country that was Nazi occupied, where we brought back the death penalty for a few years just so we could execute them. Then the Americans and Brits come and just grab these genocidal fascist maniacs just so they can propogate capitalism better, god.

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Only reason Titov wasn't grinning on the Moon in 1971. That and Glushko and Korolev's squabbling.

  • Gamer_time [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Holy, fuck. Ever since I became a leftist, I had heard and always knew that the US military had committed and are committing war crimes. But this is the first time I've ever seen actual footage of something like this. I am internally furious, and my anti-US stance has been emboldened ten-fold. To think there was a time in my life where I thought the US was in any way a "good country", and to think we let the US and their Nato shmucks come and train in Finnmark, running down airliners and sinking fishing boats, we even send troops to Iraq and Afghanistan to assist them in Imperialism. This is all fucking incoherent, sorry, but I'm just :100-com: M A D right now. I was 4 years old when these events happened, I never got to witness these invasions happening on TV, but now I have gotten to see the tip of the iceberg of horribleness.

    Edit: good post btw

  • ICEMAN [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Some redditor called me told me that the army did an investigation into this and concluded that it was alright. So you guys need to chill big time.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Don't you understand, they thought the camera was a MANPAD, so they had to strafe the ambulance that came to rescue them. And if they didn't want children murdered why did they put them where accredited western reporters were filming a documentary with US knowledge, it's asking to be strafed.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      4 years ago

      This part is very important, though, because this is alright as far as the Army is concerned. This is where hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis came from - this attitude, these rules of engagement.

  • SirLotsaLocks [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Fuck man just hearing them joke about it, I've heard people talk about the people joking while killing innocents but I've never actually seen them.. I just- i can't with this.

  • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    It disturbs me how much there chatter reminds me of listening to my friends shot calling while playing leeg.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The chatter makes me think of Vietnam vets and how, if they even acknowledge all the massive war crimes that were committed, they try and say that was just a few psychopathic bad apples. Nope, I bet a million dollars you see a boomer on the street with a Vietnam vet hat and if they saw combat, more likely than not they were JUST like the monsters in this video. Shooting farmers and casually and joking about it. That was the norm. US troops are just as bad as the SS, war criminals all of them.

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        good article (although written by NJR, a liberal) on how normalized, and even incentivized, murdering and raping civilians was: What We Did

        what happened at My Lai was routine

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      No you can't just murder children for fun and get away with it because you promised to invade Europe if they ever put you up for the Hague!

      Haha A-10 go BRRRT.

  • quartz242 [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I remember when this video was released I was into Wikileaks at the time so was semi aware but this cemented the anti imperialist stance as well as how complicit the entire military is in the war crimes. Good post

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This is going to be one of those True Anon's I'm not going to be able to listen to.