I consider myself a marxist, but do not support either country. Lenin and Mao did some good things and I'll credit them where I believe it's due, but what China and the USSR eventually became is not something I can support. Based off what I've seen on this site it seems you're not allowed to be a marxist unless you also support these states. Is there some lesser known tendency of marxism that doesn't require support for these states?

  • My_Army [any]
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    • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      MLMs, Trots, "orthodox Marxists," democratic socialists (of the Bernstein variety). There are many flavours of revisionism and disavowing AES to choose from!

        • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          yeah that's true, I think they all share the quality that they are ok with AES "up to a point," but for many of the others it's basically when the revolutionaries win and take power wheras with MLMs it's different. For the record I tend to understand MLM = Gonzaloist.

        • the_river_cass [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          I feel like this is a fairly common viewpoint, we just don't talk about it as such because we're wary of feeding CIA narratives, but I think in the right context you could get a lot of imaginary points posting that sentiment here.

    • the_river_cass [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      nah, I've met plenty IRL. there's a sizeable fraction of them in DSA, ignoring the rest of the org and working on some useful projects. I find them insufferable anyway.

        • the_river_cass [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          large in the sense that they make the news. but yeah, we haven't unified on any line and it's unlikely that we will for a bit yet.