• PhaseFour [he/him]
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    I think people can be radicalized by ideology or material conditions, mostly a combination thereof.

    Yes, this is the divide between the intelligentsia consciousness & the proletariat consciousness in communist parties.

    Revolutions do not succeed when led by the intelligentsia, because they are not materially driven.

    • Rev [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      And yet pretty much all successful socialist revolutions up till now were led by the intelligencia 🤔

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        Remember when the Soviets of Students' and Academics' Deputies became the base of the USSR? lmao

        The only members of the intelligentsia that have contributed to revolution made themselves subservient to the proletariat & peasants.

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          You said "led", not "became the base". No need to move the goalposts. There's a good reason for this too, seeing as how the capitalist system actively discourages the proletariat from thinking about possible alternatives by denying education, propagating lowest common denominator culture and, above all, burdening proles with work and struggle for survival to the point they're too exhausted. All of this besides the point if we're talking about the DSA, because it's explicitly not a revolutionary organisation.

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            You said “led”, not “became the base”

            Yes, I did. If you pretend "the revolution" is led solely by the one figurehead that gets credit (Mao, Lenin, etc.), then you are misunderstanding history.

            How many of the uprisings in 1905 and summer 1917 do you think were led by the intelligentsia? Very few.