Timestamps:

0:00 - Introduction

04:12 - Pigs

23:19 - Egg-Laying Hens

30:49 - Broiler (Meat) Chickens

41:11 - Turkeys

45:29 - Ducks

53:03 - Cows

1:11:07 - Sheep

1:17:19 - Goats

1:21:57 - Fish

1:26:46 - Rabbits

1:29:24 - Minks

1:30:55 - Foxes

1:32:23 - Dogs

1:37:58 - Horses

1:40:43 - Camels

1:42:16 - Mice

1:43:51 - Exotic Animals

1:46:07 - Seals & Dolphins

1:49:16 - Conclusion

1:55:47 - Closing Credits

This was the doc that sold me fully on going vegan.

If you like meat, learn more about where it comes and the practices you are promoting to access it, then decide whether or not to continue.

  • Amorphous [any]
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    The point they're making is that if you have egg-laying chickens, their male siblings, cousins, etc were murdered soon after hatching because they are useless for your purposes.

    • 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g [they/them]
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      were murdered soon after hatching

      Likely by blender, as shown here in the doc: https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?t=1474

    • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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      I mean you can make that argument statistically for a hypothetical chicken, but knowing the granola type organic farm these ones came from I don't think that's applicable here.

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        Where did that farm get its chickens? Are they such big hippies that they called on Mother Nature to provide them slave-animals and so they appeared from the Earth?

        No dude. They came from someone who murdered all the males.

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            Why are you being intentionally obtuse? Eggs and chickens do not appear from thin air. I don't care what farm you're talking about, trace the line of chickens back and you'll find a farm which killed all the males.

            • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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              Am I supposed to stop eating eggs from actual chickens which I know are having a ball because your unjustified certainty of what has hypothetically happened to conceptual chickens?

              • Amorphous [any]
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                Your refusal to consider events you haven't personally witnessed does not mean they did not happen.

                • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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                  And your attempting to map from the general to a specific is a textbook example of the existential fallacy.

                  I guess there really are issues on both sides.

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                    So explain to me how your magic hippie farm got its magic eggs. I didn't tell you where the eggs came from until you refused to respond. Just answer the question. If there was never a farm which murdered all the male chickens in the process, where did these eggs come from? How did they come to be?

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                        Eggs are 50% male. Those male chickens are killed after hatching.

                        You are being intentionally difficult because you know you cannot make an argument for this.

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                          Eggs are 50% male.

                          As defined on what? If I have three fertilized eggs, they aren't 50% male.

                          You are being intentionally difficult because you know you cannot make an argument for this.

                          Buddy I can make an argument for anything

                      • Amorphous [any]
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                        Sorry, you're right. And where did all these poor people come from? Well, they came from poor people of course. That's just how it works. There was never anything else in play. History began exactly 1 generation ago (1 generation of every animal that is -- my parents were the first humans alive, while the parents of the chickens you're referring to were the first chickens alive). Thank you for your insight, you monumental fucking dumbass.