Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
04:12 - Pigs
23:19 - Egg-Laying Hens
30:49 - Broiler (Meat) Chickens
41:11 - Turkeys
45:29 - Ducks
53:03 - Cows
1:11:07 - Sheep
1:17:19 - Goats
1:21:57 - Fish
1:26:46 - Rabbits
1:29:24 - Minks
1:30:55 - Foxes
1:32:23 - Dogs
1:37:58 - Horses
1:40:43 - Camels
1:42:16 - Mice
1:43:51 - Exotic Animals
1:46:07 - Seals & Dolphins
1:49:16 - Conclusion
1:55:47 - Closing Credits
This was the doc that sold me fully on going vegan.
If you like meat, learn more about where it comes and the practices you are promoting to access it, then decide whether or not to continue.
Ikr. It would be interesting to see how often the conclusion people come to is "we need to give the animals a good life and kill humanely" instead of "we need to tear down animal farming practices".
The doc that really changed my mind was the Cowspiracy because the environmental implications are actually pretty profound. The ethical stuff is hard to buy into until you buy into the premise that we never ever need to eat animal products.
Ethical reasons is the only reason that stands in the end tbh. People can stop having emotional reactions to gore, there are other diets that are good for the environment and when it comes to health people are very diverse. Ethics is also the hardest thing to argue lol.
I don't remember the particular video right now but "what qualities does a non-human animal lacks that if it was a human you would justify killing and eating them" was a very life changing conclusion to hear. But I can't say I remember the gore I was tricked into watching anymore.
There are animal-based diets that are better for the environment than veganism?
Someone who only eats meat they catch and doesn’t eat eggs or dairy is more ethical and environmentally friendly than your average lacto/ovo vegetarian I think that’s what gay is referring to. There are gradations and I try to give people credit for the little steps they take while also demonstrating that veganism a great way to live. Cmon vegan comrades let’s have some unity.
I was thinking from a dumpster diving angle but I guess your example works too.
Wait you called me gay I'm gonna piss myself laughing.
Yeah veganism is just way easier than both of those but I still would give credit to either of those hypothetical people for trying to live more ethically and environmentally friendly. Glad I tickled you comrade gay. o7
Ah yes, classic alternative to going vegan, eating meat out of a dumpster.
The only form of ethical animal consumption and very accessible to all.
I didn't say meat, did I. You'd be surprised the state the food big chain supermarket throw out is in. In huge amounts.
But you're being so dishonest that tbh I know you don't care about that. Tell me, when did I say this?
How long have you been vegan?
I have actually dumpster dived a lot, it's awesome.
Back before I was vegan finding store candy and fresh food recently thrown out was great.
But to imply "dumpster diving" is some diet feasibly alternative to hunting for meat or veganism is nonsense.
Dumpsters are locked, often compactors, only plentiful in urban areas, and hugely variable, as well as require people to dig around in trash.
Offering that up as the "more environmentally conscious diet" over plant-based is ridiculous when it can't sustain a population to subsist on trash and isn't a viable option for people.
What's your deal, lmao. All you've done is make up shit about what I've said. I have no interest in picking the "most environmentally friendly diet" for an entire population, I just said that environmentally conscious people have other options that don't have a big impact on the environment.
But no, please act like I said that you can live off a carnivore diet or whatever.
"Animal based", you're so dishonest.
What lol
Animal based implies that the majority of your diet is animal products. I never said animal based, you're being dishonest.
Oh, yeah, I guess it could be taken that way. I was just reaching for a term that was opposite of plant-based.
Guess I should have opted for "omnivore".
So are there omnivore diets that are better for the environment than plant-based?
Me: there are other diets that are good for the environment
You: which?
Other user: well, hunting in this specific way
Me: lol what first came to my mind was dumpster diving
You: which diets?
Me: dumpster diving, ig
You: yeah dumpster diving is a real thing and it has a small impact.
Me: ikr
You: "So are there omnivore diets that are better for the environment than plant-based?"
Is this a bit? Are you doing this on purpose??
How long have you been vegan?