So apparently we are now in the find out of the fuck around part of climate change. My only question is if Florida is still going to retain it's electoral votes once it's fully submerged underwater?

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    14 days ago

    The possibility of World War III has been on my mind. But just now I had a surreal thought about how the world could end in negative feedback loop of nuclear war, regular war, and climate change.

    Israel goes to war with Iran and because it's an "extinction war" Israel launches "limited" nuclear strikes which - of course - leads to global chaos, instability, and more war. "Limited" nuclear war is now no longer unthinkable so eventually there's another. Chaos becomes the norm. Meanwhile - the world has had a sizeable number of regular wars due to the chaos, climate chaos, and the gigantic number of climate refugees. Because all of this - there's no appetite for cooperation so any workable climate engineering project has any hope of working.

    At this point - it hardly matters if there is a World War III or not. The earth is already in a death spiral of chaos, climate chaos, and war.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      14 days ago

      It's grim comfort but afaik there's no scenario currently where life on earth, and probably people, will be wiped out. Even if most of us die someone will live, and hopefully remember us, and do better next time. This isn't some eco-fash "humans are the virus" thing. Just, we've been around for 450k years, and I think even if we really, really, really fuck this century up it won't be our last chance.

      Even if it gets to a point where everyone here and everyone we know is fucked, it's still worth trying to fix things and preserve knowledge for the benefit of the people who come after us, because there will almost certainly be people after us. It might take a thousand or ten thousand years for things to calm down, or they might figure out how to thrive on a hot chaotic earth, we can't know right now. But it's not over, even if it ends up being over for us.

      Care-Comrade