• GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    This is a tangent, but have you talked with our friends over there about how 196 is extremely hostile to our existence and what is to be done about that? It seems like a sticking point.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        What was there to make fun of? "LOL this tankie is trying to address problems diplomatically"

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          1 year ago

          They're doing internet edgelord shit. Kindness and diplomacy are evidence of weakness. They've already decided we're ontologically evil, and anything we do regardless of what it is proves that. Unfalsifiable orthodoxy. parenti

            • Parenti Bot@lemmygrad.mlB
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              1 year ago
              The quote

              In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the Cold War, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

              -- Michael Parenti, Blackshirts And Reds

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          • Fuckass
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            1 year ago

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      • beef_curds [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Can we have our own defed vote, which ends 2 days before theirs?

        My argument: I think it'd be funny.

      • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        You shouldn't have had to take that deeper-sadness

        Especially since you were working so hard on putting out fires before they started

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        she said she didn't feel comfortable doing that and said I could.

        wtf. She's the fucking admin. Does the mod have a gun pointed to her head or something? This is completely ridiculous. "I have admin rights, but I can't do anything to a subordinate who I personally appointed." Don't gimme that shit.

        You've been had. She's just the good cop in the good cop, bad cop routine.

      • SootyChimney [any]
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        1 year ago

        That whole thread is the first thing that makes me think we should actually defederate with them. The amount of bad faith is untrue, and allowing such an unprofessional mod is untrue.

        Even after Ada made the request not to leak DMs, the response was just some awful bad-faith scribbling over it with a pencil and still keeping it public. Absolutely awful. Props to you for reaching out and trying to have a discussion meow-hug

    • kristina [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      i mentioned it, seemed to get brushed off, could mention it again to stick it home later