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      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        1 month ago

        We've only had ONE real bad struggle session and it's the vegan one, which lasted like half a week three years ago

        And frankly compared to shit like the 2017 multi-thread struggle session about how "Native Americans are racist ethno-nationalists" which dominated r/chapotraphouse for half a summer, people on this site are living in forum paradise

        • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
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          1 month ago

          And frankly compared to shit like the 2017 multi-thread struggle session about how "Native Americans are racist ethno-nationalists"

          Man, thank god i missed or forgot about that thread in the sub

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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            1 month ago

            To this day the funniest struggle session is the time a power poster from r/blackfellas launched a one-man offensive against the whole of r/chapotraphouse

            Man spent the whole thread cussing out the whole sub with half of us joining him and the other half getting in their white feelings, the joy I felt that day, we straight up cuffed half the sub and let that man execute them one by one

              • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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                1 month ago

                Ehhhhhh doubtful. I was around for r/genzedong but I think cth was gone by the time I was indulging misplaced redditor brainworms. Shit, 'blackfellas' sounds like a op on a place like Reddit; I didn't fuck with a single poc sub because I couldn't shake that sense that it was all digital blackface all the way down.

                Like, when I talk to Angel or other homies from em_poc I actually believe that's kinfolk. I never once got that feeling on reddit, anywhere; so I wouldn't go to at for any of 'em like that lmao

                • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                  1 month ago

                  Interestingly the digital blackface problem was precisely the reason r/blackfellas went mod invitation only six years ago, and the "lurking" problem was a constant source of annoyance for people on the sub, having to deal with the constant stream of "As a white person I understand your struggle" posts

                  I remember that was actually one of the reasons that power user launched his blitz against the chapo sub, before the 2017 purge of the stupidpol racists, the chapo sub had a toxic reputation with many poc people on the site (especially black users), but the semi-miracle of early 2018 chapo brought many poc people back to the sub, which was why that power user was a little surprised when half the sub and most of the mods backed up his claims and takes

                  • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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                    1 month ago

                    you would fight half of hexbear at once if you thought it necessary just like the guy cyborg was talking about.

                    Oh absolutely; but if I'm fighting you, it's probably because I still think there's something worth saving in there. It's when I become indifferent that you're fucked lmao.

                    BPT when they first did that country club thing seemed like it had a relatively decent chance of actually being made up of mostly black people

                    Not wrong! Also not wrong about the astroturf; reason I never felt cool around BPT was because I didn't know what to call it yet, but it felt wrong that so much skinfolk could be counted on to go to bat for people who even BEFORE the DNC's mask-off "go fuck yourself" energy, were obviously just taking our support for granted because who else are we gonna vote for, the party of the Klan? The me that exists these days knows them for the misleaders they've always been.

                    (Honestly in hindsight, a lot of my bias against BPT might've been because I recognized the same manner of talking there that skinfolk on DemocraticUnderground tended to dabble in; and a lot of what started me down the path of ML was just rank, flagrant disgust for the misleadership I was perceiving on a subcon level even at that point in my life regarding the contradiction of being a Black democrat post-2000.)

                      • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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                        1 month ago

                        This is the heart of critical support. I'm not gonna sit here and front like watching stupidpol posters mald about them wasn't funny as fuck lmao. "Oh wah, they support segregation", "separatist" this and that aimed at the most milquetoast of misled liberals; my settler in white jesus 99.999% of your subs are white-dominated

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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            1 month ago

            That was too one-sided to really be called a struggle session, it was more like a dozen people just blatantly outing themselves as transphobes without any pretext, and after a month damn near 95% of the site agreed removing downvotes improved site functionality and reduced toxicity

          • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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            1 month ago

            I spent so long in the posting mines during the multiple neopronoun struggle sessions. You'd never guess which paleopronouns were most vocal in those threads. 😄

              • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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                1 month ago

                Really it's a broader joke-y term for the standard set of English pronouns, but I am particularly referencing the high proportion of he/him-tagged transphobes that were purged in the great conflagration. Now I mostly just pick at that scab to see if there are lurking #NotAllMen posters who have simply failed to show the entirety of their asses, yet.

                I think there were (and to some degree still are) just a lot of performatively radical posters who could not actually bring themselves to introspect and deprogram reactionary parts of themselves. The majority of the early user base was Redditors, and the majority of Redditors are the big pink slice in the trans survey, and operating exclusively from the dominant end of cultural hegemony takes real fucking work to unwind.

                Anecdotally, many cases where this introspection cracked a bunch of eggs. ⚧️

                I think there are ways in which it is better now, but I definitely miss the anarchic flavor of the very early chapo.chat/hexbear community. A lot of that was probably COVID madness and isolation hornt, to be fair. Still more trans/misogyny and racist brainworms than I think most Hexbears would be keen to admit, but the purges really did set a tone that at least sets the floor of discourse a fair bit higher than most in the common social media diet.

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        1 month ago

        Yea tbh I actually think it’s somewhat overblown, people get into dumb slap fights about shit on the Internet, hb isn’t really unique in that regard. I’d rather that than it be a forum of a bunch of liberals agreeing with each other about how the poors need to die.

        ….but tbf I miss like 80% of them these days

    • Mindfury [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      again, the only scenario where being australian is an advantage - you miss all the drama

    • heggs_bayer [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      They were more frequent pre-federation. The most recent kerfuffle I can think of that escalated to a full blown struggle sesh was a post in the dunk tank about a man getting offended that his girlfriend wouldn't have slept with him if she didn't know him but is happy he's hubby material, or something like that. That was a few months ago.