No, that's accurate. Understanding the distinction between socialist states and full communism is important.
I was referring to the radlibs who disown all historical examples of Actually Existing Socialism, both because their conception of socialism's record is tainted by propaganda, and because they possess a fundamentally idealist, Utopian, and non-materialist understanding of the world.
The USSR was actually pretty successful at implementing socialism as well
People never account for the fact that a successful Communist-led revolution has never happened in a fully industrialized imperial power. You can't equally compare the Soviets in 1970 to the US or the UK or western Germany in 1970 because the US and western Europe were FAR ahead of imperial Russia in 1917. The fact that the Soviets turned Russia from a near-feudal backwater to a major superpower in a couple decades is proof in and of itself that socialism/communism "works"
And likely killed far fewer people doing so, though capitalists will swear up and down that capitalism has never killed anyone wrongfully, and that every single death in socialist societies is the direct fault of communism...
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No, that's accurate. Understanding the distinction between socialist states and full communism is important.
I was referring to the radlibs who disown all historical examples of Actually Existing Socialism, both because their conception of socialism's record is tainted by propaganda, and because they possess a fundamentally idealist, Utopian, and non-materialist understanding of the world.
The USSR was actually pretty successful at implementing socialism as well
People never account for the fact that a successful Communist-led revolution has never happened in a fully industrialized imperial power. You can't equally compare the Soviets in 1970 to the US or the UK or western Germany in 1970 because the US and western Europe were FAR ahead of imperial Russia in 1917. The fact that the Soviets turned Russia from a near-feudal backwater to a major superpower in a couple decades is proof in and of itself that socialism/communism "works"
:lenin-pensive: Feudalism to space travel in four decades, BAY-BEE! :stalin:
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And likely killed far fewer people doing so, though capitalists will swear up and down that capitalism has never killed anyone wrongfully, and that every single death in socialist societies is the direct fault of communism...
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