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  • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Lmfao, Vietnam is even less socialist than China is these days, maybe things can be reversed like Xi has done somewhat in china, but they've privatized the vast majority of their state owned enterprises and plan to do even more of that. They've much more fully bought into the neoliberal status quo, they were willing to join the TPP (and did join the one with Canada) which gave transnational corporations tremendous power over arbitration court and in turn their economy at large.

    Just because ho chi minh was good doesn't mean the current state of Vietnam hasn't completely handed over their economy to the neoliberal WTO/IMF machine even though there's a communist party in charge.

    Both Vietnam and Laos are deeply on that same trajectory that Gorbachev was on that you can do to communism what brutal capitalist countries did to create social democracy (although with the knowledge of what made the government collapse so it won't happen to them).

    • CommieMisha [she/her,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      https://youtu.be/mMubOw5H-yo here's a good video from Luna Oi about the circumstances that led to Vietnam to where it is now and why it's still socialist.

      • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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        The logic she uses would be like if the US followed an economic system imposed on them by the Soviet Union and still called itself capitalist.

        There's no doubt in my mind that Vietnam isn't still a social democracy. Once you sign onto these transnational trade deals, you give up huge amounts of your sovergnty.