"Go on, call me a tankie, you are only cancelling a lib"

  • anonymous_ascendent [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    you say this like we just got dropped in the middle of nowhere with no understanding of class mechanics or history and just make vague obfuscatory statements that further mystify and forestall action

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      How many socialist movements have succeeded in the imperial core?

      Read all the theory you want, but know that people in your same shoes have done that for decades, have tried to act on it, and have all failed. Every single one of them. Most socialist states outside of the imperial core ultimately failed, too. Existing theory should be thoroughly re-evaluated because looking globally there's enormous room for improvement, and looking only at the imperial core it's worked exactly zero times.

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        4 years ago

        Defeatist revisionist nonsense detached from reality and history and the real proletarian movement. I’m really tired of your libbery in every thread, twisting and defanging everything you can touch. People like you have done this since before Marx, you aren’t some new brilliant type of leftist you are the oldest and most failed type.

        GDR was an actually existing socialist state in the former imperial core. Ireland got very close. France got very close on several occasions. Italian communists were strong but destroyed by fascist violence and their inability to fight against it adequately. The Spartacus uprising got very close. The closest we ever got were all violent paths to power, and those that failed would have succeeded if the reformists like you got on board instead of betraying the proletarian movement

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          GDR was an actually existing socialist state in the former imperial core.

          You mean the state that was invaded by the USSR, occupied, set up as a satellite state, and that ceased to exist when the USSR ceased to exist?

          Ireland got very close.

          You mean the formerly-colonized state where today every multinational is setting up an HQ to avoid taxes?

          France got very close on several occasions. Italian communists were strong but destroyed

          Still not hearing any successes.