Someone near and dear to me is convinced since they are a 5 strip of acid, they easily deal with 30 Datura seeds. How do I explain this is an extremely bad idea
Tell them it's not actually a drug and it's literally just poison
Psychedelics, weed, caffeine, meth, opiates, etc. all latch onto receptors to give off a high feeling
Deliriants like datura make you "high" by giving you brain damage and destroying its ability to sense the world around you
Similar to how an alcohol high is also just oxygen deprivation and brain damage
I know two people who have done many, many drugs, acid very much included, but they both strongly agree that datura (which they always refer to as "jimsonweed") is the worst drug experience they have ever had.
Here's an erowid page about it (I'm linking specifically to the "Author's warning" section but I also recommend section 8, "Cautions"): https://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura_faq.shtml#5
The drug effects are supposed to be remarkably different.
Just get them to take a lower dose to "get used to it" and they'll give up on their deliriant dreams from the unpleasant body load.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EA-3167
If the military engineers drugs to have similar deliriant effects to datura, it's probably not a good idea to voluntarily subject oneself to those effects.
The intensity of EA-3167's effects is unparalleled among known psychoactive substances of any class.[dubious – discuss] Incapacitating effects can last anywhere from 5-10 days, sometimes manifesting as a full 3-day peak of vivid hallucinations, along with prolonged confusion, amnesia, and inhibition of speech and cognition.[4] Some subjects exposed to the drug would not fully recover for almost 20 days.[2] Even six months after exposure, a few subjects demonstrated significant increases in the scores on the hypochondriasis, depression, hysteria, psychasthenia, schizophrenia, and mania scales.[5] The drug's potency caught the attention of the military, which considered weaponizing EA-3167 for topical use, potentially even through a handshake.[4] However, weaponization and further studies were eventually abandoned, possibly due to the extreme nature of its effects and the strain on available study resources caused by conducting human studies for extended periods.[6]
If I didn't know better I'd say those effects sound fictional, even fantastical; what a terrifying substance.
There are replications of deliriant trips on youtube that people have had which are fascinating... and terrifying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ3MS5itfmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HTEdmdDKfc
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The duration is pretty dubious, the effects to what you can end up with if you can keep down a heroic amount of nutmeg.
The sources for those claims are basically junk tbh
Everything about the article, from the name to the description, reminds me of an SCP story
Bromo-DragonFLY is also very scary, a drug that causes constriction of the blood vessels to the point of causing necrosis in the extremities. It's pretty wild what a toxic substance can do to the human body.
Interesting! No thank you hahaha. They apparently synthesized it working on DOB… I’ve tried DOC, a rare related chemical… it lasted over 24 hours. I don’t think I’ll ever do that again.
have they ever taken datura before?
just this bit from "Psychoactive use" portion of the wikipedia page is enough to put me off:
In Pharmacology and Abuse of Cocaine, Amphetamines, Ecstasy and Related Designer Drugs, Freye asserts, "Few substances have received as many severely negative recreational experience reports as has Datura." The overwhelming majority of those who describe their use of Datura find their experiences extremely unpleasant ─ both mentally and often physically.
plus it's a deliriant, aren't those supposed to be universally kind of a bad time??
why do they want to take it?
Bc she insists a true see clams a true psychonaught tries everything
(Emoji of your friend as perceived by her. In reality she is lying on the floor and just smoking phantom cigarettes in her mind)
could she be persuaded by the argument that it would be disrespectful to take it without the guidance of an indigenous practitioner?
Ask them if they've ever been around a person suffering from dementia and witnessed an episode of delirium. Ask if it seemed like this person was having a good time.
Yeah, doesn't sound like a particularly good idea for them, I seriously do not fuck with delieriants
