• GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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      11 hours ago

      They still downplay the iraq numbers too

      "khezbollah controlled health ministry says.... "

      "khamas controlled health ministry says... "

      "iraqi controlled state health ministry says..."

      goddamn i hate this shit. democracy bombs just dont actually ever kill anyone

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        6 hours ago

        Its hard to find documents on the net anymore, but when the sanctions regime between gulf war i and the second invasion killed god knows how many hundreds of thousands of iraqis they made some kind of claim that Saddam convinced all the demographers to change their results to exaggerate the death toll. They did not explain how saddam would do that or what the census people would comply.

        I wish i'd somehow been able to retain all these documents. People who can just keep and organze and search vast amounts of data, citations, documents, have a very sharp sword at hand.

    • ComradeWizardmon2 [she/her]
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      11 hours ago

      Exactly my point. They will maintain the lie until it becomes historical fact. Like the US "liberating" the concentration camps without mentioning how many people still died there because they refused to move the somewhere safe. How many queer people ended up back in prison because the USA agreed with their Nazi children, we should be criminalized. I stopped at 2011 for Iraq cause if the crime wasn't being counted by the end, it was never going to be.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        6 hours ago

        Yeah. There's not much discussion of Jewish concentration camp prisoners being forced to remain in the camps, prevented from leaving to return home, sometimes under the same guards the nazis had employeed. There were a lot of places in the western zones where there were real fears the locals would re-start the killing, especially early after the end oft the war.