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Democrats cannot fail. They can only be failed. It's 2024 and they're defending Hillary's honor against imaginary PhD Anarcocellerationists.

Trump Derrangement Syndrome is incredible.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    ”Happily accepting dead folks”, that's funny coming from someone who's fine with Palestinian genocide.

    • huf [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      yeah, that part of the tweet describes democrats perfectly. amazing. wonder-who-thats-for

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      They're doing a trolley problem where Palestinians are on both sides, I guarantee it. It's an adults in the room making the tough decisions point.

      • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
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        2 months ago

        Nah they gave up on that. They just have Palestinians before the switch now to try and eliminate it as an option...

        https://midwest.social/post/18536008

        • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          dead-dove-2

          One thing I’ve learned this election cycle is how few people have any knowledge of utilitarianism. Genocide is better than genocide+1.

          dead-dove-3

          Yeah, that's enough of that. Also PugJesus doing his usual morshupls, I swear that fucker never stops posting.

  • bigbrowncommie69 [any]
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    2 months ago

    "Great man" theory right here. Liberals, ironically, give Trump way more credit that he deserves. The end of the US Empire would come about with or without trump. January 6th, or a moment like it, was inevitable. You can draw a straight-line between the formation tea-party and Jan 6th. A second civil rights movement (as seen with BLM) also inevitable. The right and left are both becoming more miltiant. And this is happening not because of Trump specifically but all the members of his class.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      Maybe we should view Trump as some sick kind of gift from the universe. How boring would hellworld be if that Pince or Pants or whatever the hell his vp's name was lead the fascist resurgence? Trump, at least, is memeable so we can giggle while the light is crushed out of the world.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      Seriously, conservatives have been agitating about election fraud and liberals 'stealing' elections for years with all the theories they spew (dead people are voting liberal/every illegal immigrant is voting liberal/people are voting twice for liberals/etc)

      It was only a matter of time until they took that to a semi realized conclusion

  • hotspur@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    I’d love to see a tally of the actual numbers of “dead folks” that occurred under Trump admin vs. Biden admin—guessing Ukraine and Gaza might tip the scales a wee bit.

    But I’m guessing that’d be a moot point , because she likely doesn’t give a shit about “dead folks” that are brown or outside the US beyond some performative virtue signaling.

    Also: even when making what they intend to be a macabre point, they can’t help but use the ‘ol’ folks. “Uhhh, we’re gonna drone strike some folks, folks”

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      tbf COVID killed a lot of people under Trump. Not saying it would've necessarily been better under anyone else, because it showed the US is totally ill equipped to handle a nationwide crisis covid-cool

      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 months ago

        I mean COVID also killed a lot of people under Biden, especially since he just declared the pandemic over and stopped tracking the numbers

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 months ago

          Yeh. It'd be very, very difficult to estimate how much damage Biden's covid non-policy has caused because they've fucked with the numbers so much.

      • hotspur@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        This is a fair point—I sorta forgot about that, and it was definitely something like a million people + which is a very large number.

        In terms of comparison, I guess you could say that the Covid numbers were partially unintentional, or indirect. I mean I know trumps a dumbass who recommended bleach, but there were still professionals at agencies, a vaccine got made, there were measures like work from home, isolation. So they could have done better, but their policy doesn’t look that horrible compared to the Biden one of “ok back to work and don’t pay attention to the 1k+ per week still dying”. The conflict deaths of the recent term have very much been a follow on effect of US foreign policy.

        I don’t say any of this to try and prop Trump up, or let him off any hooks, but I can’t stand the two-faced rhetoric in stupid tweets like this, and a lot of the fear mongering they do is predicated on the idea that x will be worse if you don’t vote us in. Regardless of whether it’s their fault, a lot of very bad things have happened during their tenure, so I always wonder “in which ways will it be worse, and for whom?”

        • MaeBorowski [she/her]
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          2 months ago

          Yes. This is the thing here. Trump's handling of covid was inexcusable and he absolutely has many people's blood (speckled with bits of their lungs and other organs) on his hands, but it was a relatively unexpected and unknown thing, albeit resulting in an utterly botched response. Still, some response was at least attempted during the Trump years, even if he doesn't deserve credit for the positive aspects of that attempt. The Biden admin however, they knew full well what it was, how it killed, and how it could be prevented, and even made it into office in part because of their promise that they would better handle it. Instead they pretended it didn't exist anymore, actively dismantling the attempt at a response, and now we don't know how many people died because of that, which was largely the point of their sweeping everything under the rug (that and making sure the proles get back to work, know their place, and make line go up).

          It's not that Trump doesn't have gallons of lung-blood on his hands, he surely does, it's that there's no reason to think that Biden doesn't have even more, and a strong argument to be made that Biden is even more responsible for the blood that drips from his own ghoulish claws.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
            hexagon
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            2 months ago

            God Biden really is possibly the single most destructive, in terms of sheer death and human misery, of all US politicians currently living. Like he had an important role in getting Dems on board with Iraq, for instance.

        • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          I agree that the COVID numbers were partially unintentional. Sure, all the ”wearing a mask infringes on muh freedum” rhetoric and dipshits like DeSantis not shutting things down to own the libs didn't help, but all of that would've probably happened anyway.

          ”COVID is over” also gets a pass from liberals just because Biden did it. If Trump had said that and had stopped tracking the numbers, we'd never hear the end of it.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 months ago

          It has to be measured against the Chinese response. China's response was extremely effective and they managed to quarantine the country and largely eliminate Covid for three years. Outbreaks were very localized and effective quarantine measures prevented those outbreaks from spreading far before they were stopped.

          So the gold measure for wealthy nations is 0 covid. Trump's response was better than Bidens, Biden's response was blood for the blood god, and both of them completely failed when measured against China.

          Now that I think of it it's actually horrifying that the Biden admin managed to cover up and manufacture consent so completely that it's not an election issue. Well, I mean, people think it magically disapeared, so the only "issue" with covid now is plague demons harassing people for wearing masks.

          • hotspur@lemmy.ml
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            2 months ago

            I read something the other day that mentioned an early Fauci quote about how the pandemic would be in recession when we had less than 1k a week dying, and the author of the article pointed out that we had never gotten close to that number. So yeah they just made a command decision to manufacture the end, probably because they couldn't stand the unintentional worker benefits that were a silver lining of the COVID pandemic (flexibility, some protections, some better pay in some cases) and because corporate landlords were screaming bloody murder. Can't let our big pocketed speculators down you know!

            I work at a place that has a lot of staff, and the age demographics are skewed towards older--I know of at least two coworkers that I actually knew, as in had met and had conversations with, that died of COVID, so when they just arbitrarily announced RTO, I couldn't help but view it as a cold decision to "age out" some more staff in exchange for a return to managerial viability. Our productivity had been the same or better during the WFH years as well, so they didn't really have a good excuse beyond, hey this is what everybody has to do now, just be adults about it and accept your added long term health risks and be grateful.

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    BMF! Come back from the dead and show this PMC hitlerite Karen soyfash the light of the immortal science, and my life is yours!

    my-life-is-yours

  • Weedian [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    they dont need the lefts vote, they just need the cheneys, that will help them win

  • miz [any, any]
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    2 months ago

    the most insufferable liberals love bsky because you can just block anyone who dunks on you and none of your followers will see the dunks

      • miz [any, any]
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        2 months ago

        I don't know if it's still that way, but it was once and I just stopped using it because if I can't dunk what's the point

        • SevenSkalls [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          Right? Half the point of some broadcast social media, like X or Bsky, is so others can see it and laugh or turn it into a screenshot, not just the original person.

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    monke-beepboop: “The GOP aren’t accelerationists, it’s pure Foucault’s boomerang! Dems do it too! This entire electorate are sadomasochists!”